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标题: 一个军事承包商的发言，并且为承包商正名····· [打印本页]
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-17 22:30
标题: 一个军事承包商的发言，并且为承包商正名·····
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Just becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you / ]1 W  k- l! I( H2 m2 i6 M
a combatant "Dude"
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In fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" & _1 r. b3 v( y9 s4 ^
whatever cool term you can come up with this week. 1 O! \3 i0 }$ N; [$ S) B, N
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I work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i
3 e5 r& w& k' N: Pprovide "security" for our clients. ) U; x# m! M- r4 y
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I only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight
; h) a( _/ B( m, G' ?2 I& pa war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with 2 ?- P5 x. z" [- T7 B
the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
' J3 I$ C) R6 r9 u4 w. B7 Bare part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the
5 d6 |; f, j& Y! U9 {freakin army!
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. g( \! p! g6 {1 i# J" K0 s: oSo many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details, 1 [' {, k% C( Z
and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on 8 V3 x' c% ^; Y2 A" @1 s, ~  X
DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in
0 x8 P' [5 f" d) @: m0 n; L/ Hfayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they % q! g/ d% a3 K: [
have their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy?
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9 I- ~1 A+ D2 d  Zare you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
; i+ O: K1 ^; ioff and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
$ L) C- q) G0 `! `" S* a+ tclint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq, & i- `6 G- t% L! \# L' R
other than the IZ that you will see!
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
8 J8 [8 k3 p- n, M( C4 Z7 N( Aall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
# W4 G$ K+ f6 [: Q* Haround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
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5 a0 ]+ J6 m5 A8 X* N& {your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
+ b0 y6 t& r; U% kwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at ' G+ N! @$ W) ]( Y# @
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I # V: M$ `( g6 ?' x
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
! W, W+ ]5 r: C# E8 o* @) I  G+ Gcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
" y8 T: V0 e, {( p) Land bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, , g1 ^! R" O4 ^! h" @8 d1 n
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
- z& T1 O5 k1 G# z! B7 qan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
2 T& B4 @7 D( m% q  m" n7 Dcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
9 U8 J/ Q  B% ~4 z) \3 j# u* Mis war.
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7 _- L9 K, |3 L9 ]9 U3 VBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior 5 s0 j* E+ K- w
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it " n- X* i5 A( K0 s# o& h
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who 0 x/ R- p( b! y
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that 6 [% v5 L" C7 Y; Y
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
, ]1 O* R: F9 G9 x) Tthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 3 A/ c& D! X, x3 O
whatever you are calling yourself today.
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# D' Y$ z( Y8 ~8 z1 A% ?my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
! O' R& C# a8 q5 c. O- Ljust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase 4 Z, ~6 J" \& [& ^! Y- h% P9 K& K' t. j
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
; N7 ~/ X1 {0 O3 Q& Qjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
( ?! i& G* j/ [7 U. [and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
0 }% I" X# `6 `3 [& ?engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa % r7 t- Z5 {, F3 n
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we 9 C4 Q: g- r4 r0 \
do is defensive.
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! \1 |/ P. w9 k4 h: mHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of 0 f; F* R( `& J; z8 s8 d
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
% s7 Z; t. p3 F, s5 x, r, r1 utoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
. ]0 T  e2 M' k4 D, P. w8 `many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
- r* o5 K8 n! V( L8 vwhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
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! F4 U! [* h; T+ H" ]+ v: l" n( X6 O9 \so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, 1 f6 P5 z/ B1 k, a( C, V+ e$ E
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, 5 A; r' G) i8 l5 H* h  ^
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
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" ~, ~7 e# {0 h7 I7 }" }anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
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& t3 f' c- z# u" ~$ hto grasp just what your job is!
作者: 王杰    时间: 2005-8-17 22:40
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子
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杀就杀嘛" F# ?- G9 K. A6 T8 I3 z+ M
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哪儿来这边么多名堂
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全部杀光光' z- {/ u8 ^5 f7 ]+ a/ s

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杀杀
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他NND~~干！
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-17 22:45
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干！！！！
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-17 23:03
说的也是3 Z& v  B$ Y6 o1 g& s1 s' b& L5 u
现在在大家眼中，基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-17 23:06
承包商应该是避免介入，而不是主动介入
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-17 23:12
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
1 C; v8 M" {$ }- a- Y: x: P不像胡子一样·······
作者: 居士    时间: 2005-8-17 23:24
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~! D1 q4 j& K3 a" A/ Q
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
作者: potato_esu    时间: 2005-8-18 01:33
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表
7 ?. f% S% A6 W) c但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
5 V, [& W. O1 C8 Y$ q8 e* y  w; Y偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~

9 ^- |6 k( I- _' B' J- }$ @7 O: t0 B7 @干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
作者: 王杰    时间: 2005-8-18 01:38
找个说法喈9 ?6 `; T! Z% |$ ~! i' `4 b. q
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杀就杀嘛
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又不是见不得人8 R$ w  s$ f( y1 D' C

) H4 E7 |) d/ D0 e/ L这世上人比鬼多7 u7 `7 {- x) n/ G; I' v
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多杀些
作者: 王杰    时间: 2005-8-18 01:41
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~

' Z; |7 ~: H- }: \5 {! s干什么？承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
作者: ksc    时间: 2005-8-18 02:48
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么？2 {1 h" D& r0 D

4 @$ [. a. \8 b/ ?0 k  s不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作，人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的，原则上不鄙视任何工作，实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获！撤远了嘿嘿！~~~~~~~
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+ c" F- R- o0 ~- _! R- h8 a3 _让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠，其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢？人何尝又不是呢？？？0 T2 o+ @7 \5 E1 b

( r) R7 f" y+ W4 ^5 p" K  D1 e对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生！其实什么都没有，真的是世上无一物啊。
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$ H, V" k  ?8 m4 \! q( j+ [8 u; A( f[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
作者: KK    时间: 2005-8-18 11:17
标题: 雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?
今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~
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& l, D3 ?- w  `: t电视都有双语广播啦~
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* N5 D& I) `7 K0 i# Z  e偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
作者: yqw8422    时间: 2005-8-18 11:38
e文实在不好，看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么？
作者: potato_esu    时间: 2005-8-18 14:07
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表* A& j; x* ]! v  {' o

+ k* G2 T0 Q. x4 g0 ]3 L$ K干什么？承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶

( B: J' x4 A+ r如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
作者: dboy    时间: 2005-8-18 14:13
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵，我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-18 14:18
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西，用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-18 15:02
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
作者: 玩狗一族    时间: 2005-8-18 16:14
来个中文的嘛
作者: KlauB    时间: 2005-8-18 17:49
艰难阅读中……
作者: fisher    时间: 2005-8-18 18:23
翻译，翻译，最近英文水平下降了，又不想查字典，，，，，，
作者: 豺狼    时间: 2005-8-18 18:49
叫大家8要轻易使用武力，8要装骚发浪，要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”，怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅？
作者: jam    时间: 2005-8-18 21:36
那还要不要“以德服人”？
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-19 13:17
因为你带着枪在战争地区，但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家# P+ A. U$ @! p  u
实际上你只是一个安全保护专家6 `/ m9 f3 G+ y# J  J9 Q
我工作与一个安全公司，我向我的客户提供安全服务
- {6 W. X6 m' n/ e, z: s& ^我只是在这里有一份工作，我不是来打仗的，我在82空降师的时候就已经在
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去当兵吧。% a1 Q" g1 P/ o
那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑，我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队6 r  [# T6 ^! e; N, X6 v
我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做，但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳5 b4 z( u2 i! W
来这里干活而已。/ d6 b7 Y. X, }  p2 b( k8 x
未完··········翻译的不好，让英语高手见笑了·········
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" a+ W2 Z$ m1 s8 j# Z: RNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and 8 ^/ M7 N" ]6 _3 }& G% L* a' E9 [
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
1 M  T; a) u( a$ U4 Garound safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... # z1 T% `; _) d# P/ P" \3 y

* r" T; m/ n; ?) q1 j8 @  _4 o+ Z! Y% Ayour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
( a- P5 h/ K3 r: Y& L( T, }with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
" ]9 f, L' @7 Mthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I + U1 }) R. Z' Y- s+ v
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
2 ^; z# k2 J' f9 S, c7 @5 v! O% lcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
" w6 ]- g2 |- m5 O6 ~- t' u3 Rand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, # T: h& t5 O( Z$ ^
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like " r- _) q3 @  X! C4 Y! ?- V
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im   H! W# Q+ B! q$ N
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this % u7 j  {8 t6 x# d
is war.
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. u# q4 V- A/ {$ ?But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
8 f0 c: Q. Y% Q  M& x; kspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
' F; h% _/ u/ V! |up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who ' p1 u  v4 {; i9 A( `/ j
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
/ M3 R3 l8 n# P, y, B# }- F* uyou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher " N- f0 {+ Y+ m  H/ E: A
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
. l' @# n& @; N( V3 ewhatever you are calling yourself today.
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my point is this........You as a private security contractor are 0 D9 f& W* n5 ^
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
4 N2 b: m- B) g) ]him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
8 S; ~7 R8 l1 N! u# |$ Yjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out , v3 O4 B1 ?: n2 b& g& ?
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
5 J1 {/ ]! e( J  R5 l" X$ rengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa 0 |% G/ p; {3 \: d% A# j
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we % u8 i/ `: `0 p" m8 {
do is defensive. $ a- I( E5 \7 p; R% W8 x( H3 R$ A

8 D: E; ]0 O' D+ k9 Y- R. J% P9 ?. OHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of 5 K" y; W, w2 i# K. M
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
; i3 K  `/ |* A! K7 x: `too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how % \; i4 {; k1 f  E" ]  t
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
6 d, X% s6 d" Y! e8 j  @" ywhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
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0 f  X" v% R/ y1 }  t# wso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, 9 L  R& [' Q& f: O0 p  O
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
- w8 F3 ]; l$ d# C7 A$ `4 eyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these 7 z" g9 s% N, X. S+ r
companies?
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% T$ A! X1 L" o1 c' R+ G6 V6 `anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
, }0 ?1 H+ q) r3 p1 uprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
: b8 x5 J' x' P8 R( }to grasp just what your job is!
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:38
好吧，我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈
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金山翻译版本已经删除……
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[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
作者: commandchen    时间: 2005-8-19 16:46
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:49
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
2 q9 G5 Z* v) J9 r楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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开玩笑，金山快译2005专业版……
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-19 16:51
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:53
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表
4 @# j4 f* a0 c4 O! q- ^: R这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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2 c! ?6 B( N* C. C不是巴，老大，今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:55
删了，多一事不如少一事，闪阿



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