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【转载】【译文-中文】外籍人士可以加入中国解放军么?
2 K& X6 @5 Z, e( E! O' V6 a. R【原文-加拿大】Could non-chinese join PLA?* Z5 a0 m! V0 P6 n ~
【原文地址】:http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/army/could-non-chinese-join-pla-4639.html" ^, K5 k) N0 ^9 }& m
本帖的翻译作者是:Aville$ j' y8 R+ }! W( u) s
原翻译帖地址是:http://www.ptfcn.com/ptfcn/s/121.html
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Could non-chinese join PLA?
9 f( E' N0 i6 _% u U3 Q1 d+ x 外籍人士可以加入中国解放军么? : x6 F2 s7 g8 v7 M! y4 T
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As seen in topic, my porblem is that I wish to know would it be possible for non-chinese citizen to join PLÀ? This not a joke, I´m talking dead-serious about this. N5 Q7 \4 u3 l2 V" ]6 C- D2 L
2 C/ X! J W t4 X* T# H 如题,我想知道非中国公民加入解放军是否可能?大家别笑,我是认真的。4 F' F& S" @5 J- o. t) M: P
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In my short 5 year study study of the PLA the answer is no
' K2 z/ ~, |. ?1 q. p7 e4 i$ X( C. m The answer can be found in this link below.
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9 J7 v! L4 I9 S/ L5 n) W 由我五年来对PLA的研究来看,答案是否定的。
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& h9 K: v4 K9 l6 b, I 你可以看看下面的链接,其中有你要找的答案:4 E* h" F7 n& E# N: S
# I; z7 j* b, ~9 I" G. z0 D( p6 L0 ^ http://www.militarytimes.com/static/...3dnplanavy.pdf(美国人的出台的中国海军报告,有时间可以去看看)# V8 b) B- J# B$ N& }; x
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PLA Soldier
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* W4 j4 [4 }, Z1 M Thank you for your answer. But, would it be then possible if I would give up my old citizenship and gain chinese citizenship?; _6 g, Z) y- ]. l" G& P. P
多谢你的回复,但是,如果我放弃原来的国籍,加入中国国籍呢,有可能吗?" J3 |# g! w$ s1 ^$ J0 c7 h
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# f% X4 ?; D2 m0 K5 t Thank you for your answer. But, would it be then possible if I would give up my old citizenship and gain chinese citizenship?
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Nope..Someone asked that question previously..several years ago in fact. Perhaps in this thread or in theold ez board days of 5 years ago., @7 g- L* ^( B: c) H
You have to be Chinese citizen of the Peoples Republic of China to join the PLA. All others need not apply.
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, T$ i1 [9 W" H# S {( k. w6 p Let’’s see as near as I figure you live in Finland and are only 15 years old according to your profile. So in most countries you have to be 17 or 18 to join the military. So just wait until then.
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还是不行啦,有人最近问过和你一样的问题……好吧,是几年前,也许是五年前,当时这个论坛的版本可能还处于ezboard(公告板)时代吧。
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1 q. s+ u. e) V3 {: G+ ?2 l 你首先必须生为中华人民共和国的公民,才有资格加入解放军,其他一切免谈。. \) @+ z: ^$ W; X
' q) V8 G; U3 t* i( Z- T! F 你,解放军战士,两者无缘,放弃吧,还是加入你自己国家的军队吧,这才是王道。 F0 o ~" t6 z# W! n- B+ a
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进一步说吧,由你的资料,我猜你住在芬兰吧,15岁,在大多数国家,法定参军年龄大概在17到18岁,所以,你还是再喝几年奶看看吧。+ g: r0 f; Z4 F8 x! W3 _5 U
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There’’s always the Legion Etrangere
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0 {. {! p$ w# [5 u1 p0 v 总是有外籍军团存在滴。
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5 G6 c |. y( z9 N" e" l What about Chinese turned into American citizen and then to Chinese citizen?
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如果一个中国人先换成美国国籍,然后又恢复中国国籍呢?
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Originally Posted by Damingli85
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What about Chinese turned into American citizen and then to Chinese citizen?) H6 Y7 H0 p" q2 W* m& e9 n
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Nope
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% X6 B6 m4 c, R- R) R+ P$ i" B You have to be Chinese citizen of the Peoples Republic of China to join the PLA. All others need not apply. 3 f8 I2 @$ B# Z% ~1 @- J
, |" h$ Z: l! ~: { I should have stated a natural born Chinese citizen.
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0 s7 B: s+ k) u) q1 g7 m 我的意思是你必须是一个土生土长的中国人。
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4 y% w. \* k3 L& c3 r5 K2 s answer is no people not even Hong Kong or Macau people are allowed to join the PLA
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连香港和澳门的年轻人都不让加入解放军呢。(ID显示应为香港人)
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1 p/ ?- u) s9 q& `) A9 M answer is no people not even Hong Kong or Macau people are allowed to join the PLA# C' @* [0 y& m* p( L: [( |' Y& L
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Thank you! No Tibetans..No Mongolians none of the non racially Chinese people in western China or anywhere else in China. No foreigners. ) l3 Z" C; U9 a/ J* D: c
You have to be a Chinese person born in China. Period.% f: o& Y. G; v( l4 r8 B8 }$ r
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多谢啦,西藏人不行,蒙古人不行,这些生活在中国西部省份的或者其他地方的非中原人种都不行(?),更何况是外国人?
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你必须是一个土生土长的中国人,讨论到此为止。2 ]8 j [- l0 v( [3 P
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Originally Posted by bd popeye
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Thank you! No Tibetans..No Mongolians none of the non racially Chinese people in western China or anywhere else in China. No foreigners. ( t; t5 q/ V2 G, h
4 c$ [/ P( {7 A0 j" Z$ I- J+ I8 [ You have to be a Chinese person born in China. Period.
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- A9 a9 T% H/ Z. Z1 m' T Tibetans & Mongolians & Uyghurs are doing service in PLA. If they are chinese citizen.
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$ @2 F, M3 u# T* `6 t# k( N- k0 |/ ~ 解放军中是有西藏人,蒙古人,维族人在服役的,如果他们是中国公民。 y! L& N' v7 G1 W z! v3 ]4 p
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9 N h/ [2 C+ H5 m I was working in China, and I watched CCTV7 regularly. There was a Uyghu girl in PLA medical unit going round villages giving health aid. I remember she was an officer but I forgot her rank. % N/ p) d( \4 v! |" G
* ?+ Y. O) X/ G" w+ J3 c, F: r3 a; N There are also many non-Han PLA soldiers in Inner Mongolia and Guangxi provinces. Zhuan people in Guangxi are non-Han Chinese.
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: ^6 w+ ?. @3 t+ G. [ 我曾在中国工作过,时常看CCTV7军事频道,里面看到过一个维族医护兵女孩在给一些村落的人们提供医疗救助,我记得她是个军官,但忘了是什么军衔了。6 i1 v8 E3 V! ?+ q. I
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的确有很多非汉族士兵在内蒙古和广西服役的,广西的壮族就不是汉族人。% G, t+ F# M0 U$ q# b: `
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1 Y) K# z* x$ t" B3 }$ c4 y/ M1 z But I was born in China! I just got my citizenship here for college .
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( d1 b( l6 G9 E. x! ~8 g 可我以前就出生在中国啊!我只是为了上大学才换成现在的国籍。(这个华人后悔换国籍了)# E8 x3 I% q+ B, a6 t' X1 C) J. y
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尽管香港人和澳门人都是中国公民,可他们却有着(跟大陆)不同的护照。0 u. }' r- X1 @; }
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Originally Posted by bd popeye
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Thank you! No Tibetans..No Mongolians none of the non racially Chinese people in western China or anywhere else in China. No foreigners. C' N4 N& N* u5 F
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% N* R' P9 E; t* n Sorry but this claim is not true, it’’s not unusual for Chinese minorities to serve in PLA:. e3 T7 ^1 |+ N' [ ?# J( h; G* ~
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很抱歉的说,bd popeye你的说法是不对的,中国少数民族去参军的情况很常见啊。; a- I* {- b/ B' `$ I. g
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下面就是一位维族军官的例子:
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+ Z! |) s% E1 V( E 而这是一位藏族军官:1 q$ R0 t7 f$ T* ]% j8 M
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1 R% B( n# }6 i Originally Posted by bd popeye / x' m" Z4 k# p. X
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Thank you! No Tibetans..No Mongolians none of the non racially Chinese people in western China or anywhere else in China. No foreigners. 4 I" a/ I: o- _9 a/ l- x
2 E: l5 Q5 l; s) p) Z, C7 j% \" h) T You have to be a Chinese person born in China. Period.
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That’’s not true. In the history of PLA, there were many people from other countries, including USA, Canada, and India joined PLA. In fact two of the most famous WWII era military doctors were Canadian and Indian. 4 k7 n0 g) y4 E
bd popeye 你说的不对,在解放军历史上,有很多人是来自外国的,包括美国,加拿大,印度等,实际上,(中国)抗日战争中最出名的两位军医,一个来自加拿大,一个来自印度。
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Im just curious, why do all these ethnic Chinese (or not even that apparently) want to join the PLA so badly? ! e: E7 A; d. v1 T! f4 `8 `1 y
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Well there are plenty of foreign nationals in the U.S. military and French Military, so I guess its not completely unusual wanting to join some other nations military.3 S- h+ g( _5 V
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