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作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-17 22:30
标题: 一个军事承包商的发言，并且为承包商正名·····
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$ M- J+ E0 @% g) Y& @7 ^Just becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
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In fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" 3 b8 ?( x, I, @
whatever cool term you can come up with this week.
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1 J$ W3 e0 o& e0 _1 L3 OI work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i % G% ^+ @+ W: z9 \4 G# ?
provide "security" for our clients.
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* N) ^2 J& }' K) c# }2 h) ^I only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight ) d- e" `& t' ^- e9 g" U
a war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with
9 q, V( e6 I( {  J* z8 n9 A2 s  Hthe 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you / G& g: }* s  C( I0 x! t
are part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the * e% h/ G: P) C8 P- ^# N5 X$ P
freakin army! + |9 y! K$ W; \. }4 U" N
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So many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details,
  s0 V& p7 R" a; g0 }4 v" eand i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on   ^' W# d. J" D# O3 z
DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in 2 n! t  {# @/ i" C) D
fayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they 0 c5 w& @5 e7 }/ U+ W+ Q9 J& K
have their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy?
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are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
4 o; U+ b% c1 C' M8 y! e& y- d3 Doff and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying 9 c0 l; Y5 m: N
clint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
* ~1 X* @8 n4 ]( H) jother than the IZ that you will see!
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8 V, H/ W/ Z" v( h9 Q5 xNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and " f9 s* s# ~& d- W& D. h7 _. o
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
' [  N  O2 C- i7 r) [0 Karound safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
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$ m' e- ~, [7 R+ m' N. Y6 [your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
- [$ j4 T4 y5 ~4 O. Mwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
4 e/ g7 P& G: z& H3 othe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I * @& Y/ ~( y$ C
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our % F( S5 @+ \) t; f$ e( X; U6 u
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
/ Y0 r- u6 ^# ^" d8 V- eand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
. k4 J2 D" p" b4 M0 Z  O( w7 V5 y, athat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like . f% C# R3 f# m8 X7 z! w
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im 0 ^. Z+ l) I. d( ?2 b2 ]2 n
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this ) Z+ J6 b: Q0 n  @9 t1 k
is war.
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$ q0 U" \* `! m" ]But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior 0 p* P: U* @. p3 V6 l" ^
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it * O$ o" I0 ?2 X
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
4 ~! x6 A7 i  h5 W8 @# Q3 t+ A8 u4 Wcouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that 9 ~: e& e8 W  a) `3 @9 M
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
4 T( O1 T& q6 U0 x+ \  I  \than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
. m8 T* Z" P" b! ^9 Twhatever you are calling yourself today. ) a- I5 j1 N0 M6 v4 g+ E

: N4 @9 S( \5 u3 x3 w5 m- {# ^my point is this........You as a private security contractor are & x/ q* o" U7 _# q4 z! K; Y
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase ; L3 z2 g$ B) F7 \# j' Q! Z
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your 2 V! C; N- v4 @0 k
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out ; l1 y, g- j, j  l& {) H: j' t$ L& J
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if 7 P$ p9 a1 e* k* x- l
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa ' t1 P8 ]) G% h& @; c
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we # B9 k4 k: {+ }
do is defensive. 0 ^6 B8 @# I& r* n/ H2 j

" M2 [) ^! [. P+ X, ?: _How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
% V9 |. \/ l0 @: t/ K1 Q: f9 sinexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they / W$ [' I/ U) y( y5 c
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
; a6 F( s2 v$ u4 H& smany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
3 L6 q+ \% l* S3 \% D! [2 Nwhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. 2 ?( n, @9 \; A6 |+ k, a8 U" S
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so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
  R$ I/ v: X3 ?+ ^! Jbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, / k% @8 y2 x5 E
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these ; i' c& B% g. w- ^& U
companies? . f1 Y1 G: _6 l* x2 `  }

1 M/ b, y1 @2 a4 @( \8 {anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
2 H) L8 g8 m* Bprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
2 ^; m/ R3 f; g% dto grasp just what your job is!
作者: 王杰    时间: 2005-8-17 22:40
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子
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4 c4 O0 q  i/ q" R$ N杀就杀嘛
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哪儿来这边么多名堂
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/ E' L+ M; l6 S0 o4 I# I全部杀光光9 }- y( x5 p2 Y0 b+ q9 ^

5 ?* S* }* f8 ]) u7 `哈哈& a& K0 k# i4 n& y: _  ^
杀杀( P5 u. G' ?3 i; [* g; @# O

6 s. [+ n% x4 B( d  y# ^" w/ K5 ^他NND~~干！
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-17 22:45
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干！！！！
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-17 23:03
说的也是
' M& o5 \. G4 F% T. P  u现在在大家眼中，基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-17 23:06
承包商应该是避免介入，而不是主动介入
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-17 23:12
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
6 v/ q! z; _; C# i, P' N不像胡子一样·······
作者: 居士    时间: 2005-8-17 23:24
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
1 q5 @: v9 I$ w/ W8 s2 q3 H偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
作者: potato_esu    时间: 2005-8-18 01:33
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表8 K  o" y9 X) @9 h# t$ T
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~2 a4 \4 `( n, x
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
作者: 王杰    时间: 2005-8-18 01:38
找个说法喈# u9 M2 q2 K. b, H! L' {
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又不是见不得人
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多杀些
作者: 王杰    时间: 2005-8-18 01:41
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表
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9 h0 v* i" u  w# A7 g9 w. Y6 l干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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干什么？承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
作者: ksc    时间: 2005-8-18 02:48
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么？
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不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作，人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的，原则上不鄙视任何工作，实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获！撤远了嘿嘿！~~~~~~~
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' Q  u# |/ e& f1 I, z让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠，其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢？人何尝又不是呢？？？& S' p4 T* a5 y: F2 N

) @2 D) W4 `6 @# y9 c对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生！其实什么都没有，真的是世上无一物啊。
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! O3 L7 e( |2 n  V[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
作者: KK    时间: 2005-8-18 11:17
标题: 雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?
今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~$ C* K& ~0 W' {* X( `

0 J- q" ]8 v4 {8 M+ x' I电视都有双语广播啦~8 I  n5 ~3 u# s" E4 o; I( R

  p+ r1 h, U+ D5 W' |4 S偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
作者: yqw8422    时间: 2005-8-18 11:38
e文实在不好，看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么？
作者: potato_esu    时间: 2005-8-18 14:07
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表
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干什么？承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶

$ v* P4 Y, ~9 |* i- k% p如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
作者: dboy    时间: 2005-8-18 14:13
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵，我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-18 14:18
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西，用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-18 15:02
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
作者: 玩狗一族    时间: 2005-8-18 16:14
来个中文的嘛
作者: KlauB    时间: 2005-8-18 17:49
艰难阅读中……
作者: fisher    时间: 2005-8-18 18:23
翻译，翻译，最近英文水平下降了，又不想查字典，，，，，，
作者: 豺狼    时间: 2005-8-18 18:49
叫大家8要轻易使用武力，8要装骚发浪，要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”，怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅？
作者: jam    时间: 2005-8-18 21:36
那还要不要“以德服人”？
作者: rigel    时间: 2005-8-19 13:17
因为你带着枪在战争地区，但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
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我工作与一个安全公司，我向我的客户提供安全服务1 `% M* m8 F& F, M: o
我只是在这里有一份工作，我不是来打仗的，我在82空降师的时候就已经在
: d& g' O- _  c3 a阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了，假如你觉得你是战争的一部分，或者你想成为战争的一部分。; K: T# Y2 T7 W- Q& m1 f
去当兵吧。
! d8 z% ?, A( q, h那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑，我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队* H* p5 U+ S' O3 ]
我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做，但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳/ k! @4 m0 R1 Y& H3 O+ Z, b
来这里干活而已。( b1 H) x. W, a) A& o
未完··········翻译的不好，让英语高手见笑了·········
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! W. t" M' ?* P3 hNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and ' N# Q* ~' v7 `; S* E. X7 ]
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me 0 z) x0 Q9 n! ]7 s
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... ' a" w% J5 N+ V3 ^; O) U
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up / U$ ?% O6 L  k7 f% z, K& \7 Y- b. D
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at   \, x) W$ c8 ~7 D7 X
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I % B2 y  Y8 n/ X0 n# i; l
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
; U; @- ~" t. K( b9 U( }  vcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
: _5 m9 K  D. k% {+ e  b# Hand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
, [5 Z  P: @2 Rthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like - n7 b# S2 b  B' T- c' ^
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im & i3 c* f) j8 `5 N! r: A' `  h
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
/ e6 m5 t  o! `is war.
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$ ]3 z7 w2 q1 }" rBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior ) J& e$ t& P/ R4 ^- f4 s* t
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it ) X) Z" Y' p: |
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who 5 x0 d& T+ v" S# Y0 D
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that * g, y$ d: v+ o5 g2 k
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
$ C, O* G) c" c" K8 ethan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 3 H. b+ i' r/ h8 W" j
whatever you are calling yourself today. ! i, e8 n$ p% W/ `

2 \" H' G! j1 \: r, e- W! F* ~& imy point is this........You as a private security contractor are 2 Q- O4 t9 }: E: ^9 g  _7 U
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase 3 y" S$ c# y" K) _9 x+ H% L" Y/ c% ]
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your % p: \9 f' t$ |$ W
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
" l8 ]8 V- c" Q( o5 N1 O& q" {and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
8 A2 a$ \* C4 i  o2 kengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa 3 ?9 k. y2 n- G; c( {3 H, \  b
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we : D6 f* S" v, Z5 {8 K0 ~+ P
do is defensive. ; j. m( {+ T1 D! }% p
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How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of : ?7 v: n: J) L- [$ c
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they 6 M" _* _; z- z) I
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
( U4 J$ P5 Y" v3 u' ^; x; j, w2 Hmany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad : U3 @% F1 ^7 K/ `3 ~2 E, A
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. . T& |+ G: D8 j- K" |
. d- }' A0 B6 H0 i0 S9 ^
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, " [2 ?7 Y7 r# R" W7 }
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, 8 p7 d8 Q6 |2 |0 U0 O
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
$ y, R& z! Y( Y$ U' V7 i: f6 b$ s6 Icompanies?
5 [: s8 T; d4 u7 O) J& x9 ]. N; J1 C/ }( p6 \" Y. ~  i% b6 w/ u+ a& |5 F
anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
& V- R( M9 I2 t& r5 m; L4 P& lprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem # b% w& Z. t5 K4 @& r7 A
to grasp just what your job is!
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:38
好吧，我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈/ {4 @$ j! @! a# C) l
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金山翻译版本已经删除……; _/ r. K6 N5 A" m# V2 X  e

3 @& \% D7 U, n0 Q! Q) \[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
作者: commandchen    时间: 2005-8-19 16:46
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:49
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
2 t% D2 i' Y6 {: Z( I楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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开玩笑，金山快译2005专业版……
作者: 金属外壳    时间: 2005-8-19 16:51
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:53
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表! u% C; k; e% V
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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. A  M% a6 M6 {+ s; ]; V1 I* e$ G不是巴，老大，今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
作者: 酷不理客    时间: 2005-8-19 16:55
删了，多一事不如少一事，闪阿



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