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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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Just becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you " Z9 a, h& o, U# F
a combatant "Dude"
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; ~. C0 M& l9 d- H* `In fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" % X# }% Y$ l7 \7 b" m4 \* d8 d
whatever cool term you can come up with this week.
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+ @( ?+ O. U/ l) ?& G9 k; \6 f" K& OI work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i ; j. M3 o6 Y# D$ i9 D4 b1 n
provide "security" for our clients.
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I only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight
0 B$ E1 `. {% \- p/ z# d( La war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with ' g' j% b8 p& T6 V
the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you . U9 e8 _, E* q& Y3 R2 j7 j
are part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the   w9 M  j8 V  ]- T; u
freakin army!   B9 ?; O# l' [  j
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So many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details,
2 N$ g( G, L' ~( B; [/ t8 {7 |and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on ' M. e+ u; G6 H& n
DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in
: h6 D4 S* O" C3 n; k! B. Sfayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they 5 g9 e/ e* ~* p
have their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy? 2 s4 I) j. \8 q* \, y+ ^
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are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
1 x. |3 @0 t, D4 `# Y# |! B' poff and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
5 t) i" U6 c0 A) eclint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq, 1 u  K& P- N% p1 m- n, J
other than the IZ that you will see! # I% S. J, T+ |- S/ {  A3 W
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and 1 r7 E$ ?& ^, S- n3 o$ `7 R
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me % `% Z' ?1 b+ q/ n
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
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# m, W( c1 N+ k% g" M% Qyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
- z' k- ~6 W( ywith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
8 _. t$ k! B2 b* P) p0 y2 U7 tthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
% F! K6 t7 m5 j4 Q7 [dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
3 q3 F& t& J6 Wcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
8 w. p* F1 `5 x8 x* zand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
7 c7 {+ @" ?3 ~; c' i  c7 W& l$ d, uthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like 2 \! d) n$ N8 I; r& S7 {$ V% V
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
/ z3 M6 y5 y: X- V; m8 ?cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
! w- U; }# ?+ D7 |* Fis war.
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: U. K) f4 i" j  B& e- n# i2 x* M1 v+ `But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
1 g( ]7 A+ g5 y. N! tspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it   z: z0 N7 b0 k2 o
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
+ F  t$ C2 J/ Z& c! {; m  Rcouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that - f) m% R5 I/ K9 B" j
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher ; G! l  e6 f( {6 ^
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
# i/ Z! O7 e* ~+ g: Wwhatever you are calling yourself today.
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: j. L! K! x% l" w% e( w; tmy point is this........You as a private security contractor are ; T9 f! f) W5 {
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
' V, m% q) F: Mhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your 6 g* g) J7 U5 I
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out ' s3 E3 [1 j! v) I* x/ R
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if 2 B0 ~  e: y) j+ g+ A( `8 q
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa 5 s3 [3 Z" c+ W0 u5 u
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we # b* E, I6 A0 W9 A0 k# X
do is defensive. " Z. ?# w4 \0 D9 V

" q5 @+ T4 N' EHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
3 ^6 [, z% I' B- `; winexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they 4 W2 j* X, p" k$ }+ a$ W/ P8 P& K# X
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
$ A: P8 x$ c( w5 Dmany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
7 M. D' P4 B: }! o/ \) ]what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
$ q6 ~" {+ D7 c1 t
% d4 D& F/ s; j9 @- N3 Kso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
6 R) l5 Q( t8 v4 Y/ l8 sbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, " j9 O5 O2 W- s% @
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
5 X8 p( Z# R  d% m5 s3 Scompanies?
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) e  \  Y& X/ _; Sanyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
7 C0 v  o! C( |6 w6 M0 H: H: s( vprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
6 a9 {3 A, |8 d$ P8 x2 cto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子: t( P2 S2 e; y" ~4 S4 z
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杀就杀嘛  L( J! V* `1 U
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哪儿来这边么多名堂8 ~  v( v" l5 h  j# ?. b
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: U! f4 C1 u; U1 M: P6 K/ C全部杀光光
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哈哈
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$ Z! Z' V, X9 g, {) h3 z他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是4 @! G8 c0 f+ |& o
现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······9 x" N% v+ Q8 b( {8 [$ O# L
不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
0 ?2 \* {- J1 w4 b# j. h! U偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表1 |  X% i+ o! `$ X$ P3 U3 @# N
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~; f" v+ n0 }  c. ^$ k$ c( Y' E/ A
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~

: A% E0 X0 q4 U4 N0 ^4 @% ^4 g干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈
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杀就杀嘛9 \- b% E7 d! v' g* J2 r. o6 O- S

- M1 D3 I& m: v0 Q- a! K又不是见不得人9 h1 f9 e# d0 f5 B% O) A  w
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这世上人比鬼多1 N4 |, S! P+ j: M, v: P! S

# x# h9 [1 g9 U' v6 a% T0 d多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?3 u  E4 T. S7 r+ M% ?/ v

$ f- _& V* ~: s) |不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~: x& H/ c0 g$ n4 s, ]1 k' e! n

( @% c" D% y3 q; V# y; E让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???8 g9 C) k, A: `. s& @! U% {% R, [, b

5 o/ i8 E5 a4 M% V对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。& ?8 J3 }( |0 d
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[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~
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: \7 P) |; a) k6 M- p1 d6 u1 P1 e电视都有双语广播啦~. a) Z# V, q( E& J- m

8 [7 }9 C0 d" o4 o# ~2 X& z偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表  C# [0 R2 J0 Z1 k

  a$ J7 a8 g! S0 B4 Y. ?干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶

7 P* x0 Z0 r" F: C如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家4 k# r* E; H! P4 q
实际上你只是一个安全保护专家0 ]4 S- O, G3 q- G: r
我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务
. q3 `& p4 F2 Q& t. c& f+ G1 Q我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在. g- c" I0 \) ]' ?2 B$ j$ n4 B
阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。+ w) n4 J8 F% S+ f6 P
去当兵吧。+ r) y3 t1 z$ q! M& E
那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队0 \- j6 v# _# U2 [* f5 I+ D
我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳/ X' N, `2 L% u6 c
来这里干活而已。
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; q" s5 E! E: K( a' Q% KNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
. Z# e' e: Q( Q! P) c& Zall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me 9 t# D6 h# {" V* Q' U' _
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
# v9 T( H. E6 u2 P4 a! s1 U) M( }5 m; z7 R& G; F/ g
your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
6 @" e( S" q2 S, _$ m8 a, }7 E& Nwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
* g- M8 G) c  h8 F4 ~5 Rthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
$ J3 l  P! G* z0 t6 kdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our 6 L$ W' C+ {( _" k. C) y
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS ! w; C3 V7 V4 T7 }: [
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, $ t/ H/ K$ p, o7 e
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
7 T) _6 f# X; @8 B- A  O* aan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
7 V' u0 ^# n6 Rcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
* I1 x! ~9 M+ l4 iis war.
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2 S$ \- i$ y+ A& W, ]But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior 7 [, E* k8 n# p% \2 l
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
! ?1 V/ W6 I0 e' ^6 y+ z5 g9 Gup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who ! i* D; b2 R. C1 H+ u3 y
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
2 M5 V% _( X4 o1 k6 uyou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
6 K' f6 l! R2 P1 ]7 \$ R' z( Zthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" : X- Z$ q( e5 d; X
whatever you are calling yourself today.
/ \, E( T, z9 B3 O/ {9 l! H! P* |- l* X8 c, K! J* Z
my point is this........You as a private security contractor are - \" ^% o- y6 \. s
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase ; B& v6 P: G. X) w' q1 o
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your 2 r, r' f4 J8 l& d
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
; v( x0 q1 T5 D# j! y0 ~and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if 9 i! j0 E" q7 _0 |* O
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa 5 M: `. k. y& N, Z) D# c
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
( w' N/ q2 E0 y/ sdo is defensive.
% G& M7 s' M2 r- T' D& u! `: g7 g. H2 {5 v$ m4 ^1 Y! b
How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of 8 p; G! a' F  h; Y- H7 A3 s3 A
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
8 W3 k& t) ~; u. C8 X3 M' Ptoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how # E9 ^; e3 [- ^) v9 `( o
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 0 U0 M* H4 a5 o; Z( _3 d: p' d; Q
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
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# T% N- y  V: I; }$ [6 [9 d. kso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, # b- [4 I- p! ^5 p
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
: K, f( I  f# h+ cyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
! h8 v1 ^+ u0 X) R; `companies?
( ]7 a* ^+ g6 A$ ~# ~$ _# d" p
# I. D7 S0 \/ ?- {' nanyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security   H$ K5 Z/ c/ S1 |( Z. t
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem " d- R5 p! C6 a1 z, h8 z. n$ x
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈
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8 g& `& o7 |: _( Y1 ?5 r/ Q9 @金山翻译版本已经删除……
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[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表" p+ T7 E% Q. a9 O8 x6 ?( P
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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  K3 z+ C3 T( x" }: r9 w开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表3 G! S; s' T  P/ o5 v  z
这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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& f$ y& L  Z3 s9 L+ B不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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