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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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8 S9 e3 |. y! e  d/ T2 uJust becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you 6 {7 V3 x9 r1 U+ H' [) g
a combatant "Dude" & f% }6 @0 @) f" h' K
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In fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" 1 d6 f% A; y! U
whatever cool term you can come up with this week.
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0 b% O# e# |' LI work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i " |( i) d0 w4 C3 m$ z" [  b" d
provide "security" for our clients.
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5 V  _! ]9 I0 jI only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight
6 t( \  a1 A9 }- {! W* x' Za war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with + w& Y4 c. U  i: ~! D; l; Y* I! V
the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
7 ]1 C4 T! w5 b# \3 K) Xare part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the
) K4 o" ?$ H% b8 I, v% n  efreakin army!
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% w' e0 `  h$ J) U  [- V+ jSo many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details, ! g1 Z3 m7 b1 G& O3 ^* V
and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on . G# _! h  F. X8 m9 G5 k
DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in # X8 m  P- F# ~  v
fayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they
. }9 w- f  D( c/ E2 Phave their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy?
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are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
. @( Y4 G; W! Q6 o  P* ]off and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
7 y: z7 n$ E$ w- ]& nclint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
: m6 z0 q' Q4 j7 |- y% sother than the IZ that you will see!
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4 T  l, u1 `2 s& A2 w% F1 fNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
' w& P# @- ~- E4 z9 p+ k, Rall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me 6 q2 D3 i& C" ^. r% I2 U
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
/ u& ]# ~2 B; Owith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
6 D9 f+ C* q$ W  X; i% Tthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
1 U4 J# V3 i4 Gdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our ' }: j: |; T( k# L6 O( x* K3 \
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS + H0 |) U/ g2 h7 ^* ]2 W3 U
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
3 B: D( r1 L9 w% A- i. |3 pthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like & V9 k4 f- y+ r% t% Y3 h  I, k/ m
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im * `* h) R, L% n# l; B" H1 {2 \
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this , `& p6 {8 }" n: F% V0 `
is war.
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
2 t' k4 [- d8 Bspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
! T- [4 R1 @( K% `+ ]- [2 tup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
( I5 F4 U! y% p- ^; k& o7 Zcouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
. \- r0 {+ O/ zyou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
' r6 M3 v0 X; y; a' l. mthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" + g3 k5 l/ t7 F9 }# S3 j
whatever you are calling yourself today.
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my point is this........You as a private security contractor are 1 t8 X+ E2 g4 j! m+ m& c0 o7 I' L6 v; a
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase ) H, e- d+ N8 w
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your 8 a! H, P% j8 O1 v- G. X
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out 0 _0 G0 _; Q2 b8 G
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if + H3 _, [6 N! a
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa   p9 k- H+ y6 x( _) }* |
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
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How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
2 H2 h6 v' S5 t% V0 R9 c; J; G; tinexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
( J/ E& t5 N' _( m$ i$ mtoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how ) @9 e  p* H1 K3 l# W3 s1 Z
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
& T6 w' z5 u. T3 P9 G8 Twhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
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( r% T. {5 D3 B% D4 [9 sso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
/ h, G/ u  b4 `because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
* F5 F1 c4 D0 \: X+ [1 I- Wyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these ; @7 o6 T5 d5 |) L
companies?
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anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security   m- m% h% C0 ]. y
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem , A2 ~8 s7 l0 n' _% U: I
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子5 E: M; ^; d# V* \

* k5 c- N) N0 b; R; ^& o杀就杀嘛
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哪儿来这边么多名堂
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全部杀光光
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哈哈
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7 x& e' Z2 [$ M4 }9 g: d  o$ S1 G他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是
9 ^% k6 ]6 u, p# F1 p" b1 C& {现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······, ]% E" G! ?! I; Z+ a. `
不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
' x  u3 d* c/ k! k偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表! x! X4 C& q4 h% D" ?
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
1 }+ h0 C# f* }4 E偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~

3 m0 S0 P  t. o  K+ Y7 }$ `干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈" r& n  s* O6 Q$ u" ?  u
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杀就杀嘛
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  j; ^% N9 l% v) I9 u又不是见不得人  q6 V* `7 t5 z' e) r5 S- D0 |* _
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这世上人比鬼多
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7 N# _% o# ]7 `5 \4 i- ^多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?9 }, |$ w0 x# f  }
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不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~: f- M3 p' V) }  [% w1 R
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让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???
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对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。
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[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~* g6 a. K, f* z% U) ]
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电视都有双语广播啦~2 W4 I/ _) P5 ~  N

/ u$ r4 W7 L3 I: T" G+ ?% k偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表  P& X! z* t- k& x1 w# g

: {4 m/ R& @* _' }5 y! Z3 C" E" a" l干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
9 G: {: b8 s: O% F# }4 {$ u8 t# I9 Z实际上你只是一个安全保护专家/ A3 S1 w! m* ~8 @* Q: `  g4 W: |' L
我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务
% Q( m5 V0 ?( q, O3 Y/ X我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在
& X; ]' ?+ s( y: W阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。9 x, j% {5 ~0 C: {
去当兵吧。8 s0 y  j1 v$ L& ?) k% _
那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队, }) j( ]# C7 [& Z: l$ K: h
我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳0 W8 |1 `# [, f- T
来这里干活而已。; T* V7 r& R6 t9 k9 V
未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
7 w1 f- G. p3 D* R3 Z( x( r: A" Tall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
$ z# R" t. `) U6 B! s! v3 Raround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... ! d4 g, V7 K7 y  G+ H8 H
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
" O3 S& d( Z4 h1 H8 t& Swith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at " d5 g0 X8 @; D4 O" ~) g3 Q8 Q2 @1 `
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I % E, h/ P! E* M, C
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
& ~) P& R2 U' T9 h& D; r% r* x+ Bcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS $ Q( \& ]4 ]+ `$ U9 {. r' @
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
- o" u" H5 h  X- Q/ U+ ]that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
+ c$ K& n5 M5 P: C* Q+ l# d" ~2 ian Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
. Y* z5 o4 C- a7 k# @2 pcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
3 I9 M3 |- }3 g* y" K  eis war.
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* U) E( a/ P5 S( u+ G$ `But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
$ h  e+ L& E( Fspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it 1 Q; B% Q4 D) W% X, y8 G
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who + M3 |/ Z& E7 a! m" U- g% m$ I% |
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that ! g) I% M2 J" F! O' o+ ^9 s
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher & E4 T& F) }8 H  T3 S
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 0 G  {* s2 A2 t" V0 F* @  W# @  q8 l
whatever you are calling yourself today.
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# \3 M" |# P* ~, n) Y/ f) `my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
: k: O3 w" A7 X9 q' Ijust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
- w/ l' n; Z4 Z; k, Q. Jhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your 8 h* L. M* h0 E; s
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out 5 b, T% Y: ?# h0 \+ |
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
7 o0 E$ j! Y5 \$ ~5 \* b0 Lengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa + f' H( y5 b+ i/ Y+ O0 x; s( ~- C
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we ; z9 |' ?7 B8 ]6 I; N# Z" {' Z
do is defensive. ( r* E2 Z, T  X1 s/ A' x7 x
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How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
" [2 i+ P) J. linexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
, g7 ], i/ A4 O: \; C+ K1 h2 l* Btoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how . z3 |5 K. J% j+ \2 n0 d* V
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 4 D$ c6 i4 l$ h/ O2 a2 E# x
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. $ I1 Q/ o- E9 a: s
$ T: g. F2 E, e/ t$ a' {
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, 1 l' k$ b/ C* _
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
% @) c) R5 x# y" S2 w9 M1 oyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
* c! A- q" ^/ B1 ucompanies? $ ~& _  J8 A- N" I

% I( M- b: ]7 I' S. `) canyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
8 o& M) n1 ~. e6 o, B; j9 z, \professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem 9 C8 h; C# q0 \6 N/ Z6 z5 X
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈
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# Z$ H3 k+ n5 a6 T; a金山翻译版本已经删除……
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[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表) \- F1 G8 e5 \/ N2 a' P) i
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表
! a$ g) L0 k8 J: T4 T! U! j6 P这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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