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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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Just becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you 8 l/ s  z* Q" D* K. r9 I
a combatant "Dude"
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8 ^1 v2 q& s2 S( x( f6 dIn fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" ' m; j2 N! G8 ^0 u1 E6 S, \
whatever cool term you can come up with this week. % m0 w, {# D- ], {

$ F: M" E* S/ ]- K( PI work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i
# c/ N/ x7 A6 a% w. N9 Dprovide "security" for our clients.
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2 q* p0 H" r. \5 [  VI only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight
( a8 D8 \% h( A( h! Ya war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with 3 ?/ e+ S6 t1 A
the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
) n- f! [8 V3 ~) k* F  Bare part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the
& q$ {3 P5 F% f9 Lfreakin army!
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So many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details, * u2 g$ d! Y8 h0 U8 |9 A
and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on * ^' u  a0 c' W1 u4 z: D
DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in 1 @: S1 g" Z8 `3 ^
fayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they
8 k( c  {4 x. D$ Lhave their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy? 4 h% \0 x. P0 L4 D

/ n, [- @1 k* k4 }" H( S8 h% k+ K* z3 _are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon * ?% D- f4 K0 ~8 w
off and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying ( E( ~( z2 _4 Y, r/ S( i
clint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
8 Y4 ]% @- \0 V4 Z% D, Oother than the IZ that you will see!
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# a3 z  A: X0 A+ s" ]" K; }- X8 `Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
" j& R) u/ e+ W) Oall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me : i3 z7 k- H' r) K( c/ \
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
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0 A0 K! m( L" b4 w  fyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up 5 m" Y3 m) L5 K
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at 1 ^% U7 n. M" g, S
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I % W! G$ N* R$ s& _; R
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
: ?+ h" x% j4 _8 p1 E3 d" bcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS 6 |& G5 V6 S2 a% D5 X' N9 [+ p. A
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, % g# G5 ]+ w5 {# @% V
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like 2 C/ Z) p; A# d6 _
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im % r9 U- c; P, C' `) W
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this : `5 z! N9 B3 B7 n9 s+ g7 {
is war. % u8 J; }3 \' H7 n

4 E4 I* L3 O, j5 Y# |* Q$ b- ]- Z; WBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
5 U  D0 K- P* ?5 yspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it : N4 y8 E, m9 Z% e3 C5 K
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
& ~$ g7 }/ R. |% l, \6 Zcouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
5 I) y7 }7 J# V0 ^% M; }9 D' Ryou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
5 d! b# p  i& a3 y( Mthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" ; K9 ?# D  I4 R
whatever you are calling yourself today. 0 k, D1 q) |; {  A9 [' H4 A4 L

' e/ _" h& \/ Fmy point is this........You as a private security contractor are " n; F( Y, i: C; w8 k4 k
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase - Q/ n% ~1 I" E  y) n0 R
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
1 l: l) X6 p% `" Wjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out 8 Q7 [6 y0 d( P7 \8 o! |7 ?
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if * v! U% ?+ P. ~! x
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
7 [/ S  F) s3 k& _4 G* T7 |- z" r) ~there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we ! g2 t) ]) f2 f: e, _* i
do is defensive.
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! @) B$ q; k8 a# [7 [, A" x0 K) NHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of % m8 J" M7 u3 a3 _6 |! k2 }$ Z
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they : D; _- b' g# k7 v( o* s; F0 T9 ~
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how ! W9 y/ g$ _) e  ]6 v
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
- O' U; G6 P  K% x/ rwhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. " |% V2 o/ X4 w+ a7 J

5 z& ^! u( N) \9 T* y! f! dso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, , f2 _# N2 K( |0 ]. C% k+ E- B& i  N% l
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
4 h" j4 Q. w, C# X) A; oyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these / f. C5 s$ a$ }
companies?
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( _' [7 `- x* T" K( o# Qanyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security ! q6 u. |$ G2 G! n$ o
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
! S: v3 `  @$ D  `8 z# uto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子
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杀就杀嘛: ^0 N0 Z  r4 s  E
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哪儿来这边么多名堂
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9 ^, R; h0 g8 t5 J- O$ j全部杀光光
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哈哈
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他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是# ^: @+ i' p) [
现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······! V* r) o$ L  X
不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
3 D$ @- l; _) z9 q! a3 g+ J3 u偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表
2 Z( f1 y7 X+ k9 G" U9 L但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
) R4 N5 B5 C8 }偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~

8 l0 |+ w1 O, q0 T% l' [" V. O0 n干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈: C$ i9 p9 \# ~2 x. \
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9 M$ r% M/ ~3 |, K杀就杀嘛( ~% [4 q1 y2 W6 p
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又不是见不得人$ d' f- s$ `! t8 y" t. `8 |

' t/ }2 }0 L& G# _+ h* ?' V, v; v4 O这世上人比鬼多2 _9 j- \$ i- k: l3 S+ N, |: R8 m
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多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表+ V. R- i; X; v$ `# j

" r0 _$ ^2 H4 K7 |干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~

  y3 f, t9 i0 a2 r- O7 T干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?
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- Y! ?. ?1 o. e2 f7 d# t不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~0 }4 t+ D- @8 t( A1 n
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让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???
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8 K* q0 J. `9 ~$ l对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。2 r( j; N$ m: D3 O: H. u- b
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[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~
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电视都有双语广播啦~
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表) ?/ A( v: w8 G& E+ ^
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶

% K: ]: e0 F3 W8 {8 p3 [如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家5 v8 T  w1 o/ z0 M: [: E  j9 ~
实际上你只是一个安全保护专家
* C2 _2 ?) [. B; [我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务
! q4 [) b: K) |1 B- F- w! t我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在9 F' ?0 w& @. [/ T
阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。$ @* D7 r+ T0 O- S- i
去当兵吧。; \' n. i1 W5 E( y/ P8 l9 w2 |9 i
那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队
7 I6 d$ Q" A8 H, v+ f; ^我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳" v  [  _' ?7 h  u% R
来这里干活而已。' x" ^9 ~9 |7 N9 R+ t
未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and ) M: z2 r2 @7 F  s" |. q8 c# F
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me ; D7 N% P, ]4 Q  J* G/ V
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
& c  w0 W9 m+ l3 R2 R* m0 T/ k2 ~; l: r( T$ w+ v' Y9 q
your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up ! q* U. o% s0 T& s5 g8 G+ D8 J0 K: I
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at 1 X- L5 h3 G9 M
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I : ^, J( a* ?" J$ X
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our ! c) C; P* H' H! ?, [8 Q$ s: {
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
& Q" U! Q* `: R6 Hand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, # K) C: e/ w! X# U1 f, c& `/ O
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
0 C' |" b; }6 P; z% s8 fan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
# N0 l; y1 a' ]% a' x/ C3 hcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
# E0 ]% E$ i/ g( k( {1 B. H7 }is war. # k; Y: X8 A$ Q. r2 \

: z( `. V! c+ Y! Q6 U  U+ WBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
1 Z: r# p$ j' o. h1 I4 Gspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it - X& G3 r4 a7 G* c
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
! n6 g& P$ N% d- P! n5 ^( [couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that & w6 m$ o: _# S  ]8 i
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher ) e. a7 \& \* k2 F! j; r% R
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
9 }+ U9 e5 P/ ~) O: b$ ?7 s1 Awhatever you are calling yourself today. 6 l% s4 e" c& N  H
* H& c- H$ T. \, P: M
my point is this........You as a private security contractor are 5 l6 I7 T% n) Z' k: ?6 f
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
& i6 h2 u" N8 B& _him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
( R8 P# C3 J* |( \job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
( ~0 _) }5 S; ~and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
( F, d5 d3 K1 _engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa % K* ~; r# G5 |4 d" }. J
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we 3 _5 l: K+ o2 ^8 s6 h. o8 i  d# J
do is defensive. 3 [; |7 Q. {7 e" X8 k2 y
0 m! R$ K$ h; L( O4 S
How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of # U* a; q2 G/ p9 r0 m
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
' j8 c, ]/ z; P3 w$ y7 Btoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how 1 V6 c- m" J8 |5 R+ k3 L2 i( g
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
6 ?  E/ I% E# ^7 k3 o4 qwhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. " w, N7 F' w" d9 O

2 g4 j8 W& |6 z: Iso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, 8 ]3 u. I; r: y, L. |
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, ( Y  O* j$ X  }" J# T8 [: n! [
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these " @5 V5 P* e, e
companies? 8 ^: x5 r" U# C% ?; [

  R; g9 M3 R" O  kanyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
6 s' p: b. a7 P( K$ Z, Iprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem & L4 T1 ^+ Y7 f, @
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈
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金山翻译版本已经删除……" B% X7 u- P) n

6 H; `' J- D9 J[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
1 o( X* [" T, Z* q9 D* h7 ]) `楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.

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开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表( y8 A) S- I# k; O( {
这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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2 z- a1 T- y& t* G3 V不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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