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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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Just becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you - R+ a/ z: ?/ x/ B( s  ^
a combatant "Dude" , D2 T8 j+ M  u$ a5 m

: I. X7 t: f5 v9 R  ^2 }, MIn fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD"
. \  D' K7 S4 \( rwhatever cool term you can come up with this week.
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/ c$ ~! P4 L. Q' OI work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i 1 i* |% c" q5 x) ~# m9 Q
provide "security" for our clients.
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I only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight ! L! R3 Y8 v( `  Q6 e7 ~7 T
a war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with
5 j" f+ g$ G; Q3 A' n" rthe 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
. T/ J9 H/ h" H' Aare part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the
' W) x: }0 J. T4 w  Y5 [freakin army! ) x+ L  o* W9 D0 @' C& t2 W! v) V

/ Y6 r7 I; V$ n. z, @, s% W& SSo many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details,
, Y. ?: f  }& ?4 Aand i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on
0 @4 X# p# p- k0 A3 ^3 g' EDCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in 9 s* Q0 J# k+ }* i) z
fayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they 9 a2 @' m" e* M1 N
have their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy? 6 b. ^, H" b0 y5 W

  w7 ^/ m' i( K1 k( F4 zare you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
1 {3 o* i. b$ \off and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
% D/ s1 ?# W6 X  \. xclint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
5 ~( U5 A6 U" F# A0 h4 @other than the IZ that you will see!
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( y  t( U0 U& a. QNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
4 x. R6 f( \% I  E" a" Mall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me 8 b6 K2 v& D& K
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
% ~& C9 S& P8 C" ]- X$ L+ nwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at ! k2 b2 D$ W- ]8 ?! ~" N* K" I
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I 8 b% |5 ]6 J$ ], ~' i
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
# _1 K9 [! E- {2 Ocoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS - T( _' ~# f! k  ]/ J: Q6 c
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, ( f' ~4 ^& o2 g- Z# [, Y0 q3 `
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
! q: E- s2 A) Q0 k6 d7 R5 pan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im 5 X4 P; y; P' r6 {5 b
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
& U1 t& w8 H1 b* u6 _3 R+ lis war.
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
! g/ Z( V! ]# u& ?! B0 H( yspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
# P  ]  V7 v& ~( i5 m4 a" gup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who 1 F* G4 K1 {" Z/ e4 M  i
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that % H: a6 e& E5 L# f
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
! t" \; Z: i5 w2 \than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
# s2 E& e/ m" {1 P' Y4 i8 @" Kwhatever you are calling yourself today.
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) `+ t' s1 j4 J. cmy point is this........You as a private security contractor are
. K" P3 l. S1 m' Y- {just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
. w9 w: m4 R& m) Q; V9 [  q" D- Hhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
' [8 w1 J$ M" `- L! I: Sjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out 2 P8 b: s9 m* w4 ~! f
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if ( J  B7 t# c! I$ v5 d6 |5 B
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa . H, u, F+ o- Y7 j* _9 |; G: w
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
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$ j+ X1 V& L5 iHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
9 G" i+ W) I: {( finexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they & d/ M% S) V0 I8 e# K  u  w
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
6 z: p; o/ m# p+ K* D1 mmany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 1 U3 q  ^+ i% }9 h( m
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. 9 B" O, d  X8 t6 V& s, D" n9 J

8 @# S, M! ^, Eso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, / r: G* }; [/ v0 B0 \
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
% P' Y  |- o1 P# j5 l+ B' i6 Uyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these ' i( T0 s- r4 Y3 @* r( H; t& j
companies?
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anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
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to grasp just what your job is!
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王杰
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子
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; m: u) q& h. i, m杀就杀嘛
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哪儿来这边么多名堂
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( l1 L/ q5 O& T3 ^* L! O全部杀光光+ G$ b$ \4 S4 H) m5 O7 x* o
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哈哈$ x: ^* s. L' W
杀杀
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% B" U; d" w2 k% `7 c$ n他NND~~干！
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rigel
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干！！！！
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是- E5 ~7 t5 P, E7 r) C# W5 F  r
现在在大家眼中，基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入，而不是主动介入
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rigel
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······$ n3 V% a# J. M) t' ?& T- r
不像胡子一样·······
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居士
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~+ y. m& A1 M7 }
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表
3 W: A9 o7 [/ p2 d% o2 [但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~: i. q- c3 c" q% m* `
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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王杰
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈1 X! P0 a* r% Y9 B6 d
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4 L- i. ~: ^" y8 Q# y$ j杀就杀嘛
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8 p! n& \$ @- d8 X) J3 L7 x又不是见不得人$ D3 ^! y& ]2 U9 g
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这世上人比鬼多9 P; e7 w8 u9 Z

* r5 L) o% c9 g# M. ^- J, U1 p多杀些
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王杰
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表' H9 b2 |% V2 d

3 K& R, I9 U0 ]# P0 n干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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干什么？承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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ksc
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么？& U, i" p, s8 n7 }$ Z; T

+ R) Q- [( n% Z1 X+ c& p不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作，人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的，原则上不鄙视任何工作，实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获！撤远了嘿嘿！~~~~~~~
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! v: q) _0 R7 {0 L. N( W1 h7 t- M让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠，其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢？人何尝又不是呢？？？# }; l8 x+ @4 ^, G& n: A) N
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对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生！其实什么都没有，真的是世上无一物啊。( R3 ]$ _7 q6 L' q( P" k8 a4 w% S4 u

. }! _$ D5 v8 U  X5 C2 l[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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KK
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~1 a  X3 S% z0 R5 [6 h

; I+ A& E& r/ T# p# E电视都有双语广播啦~8 E2 t, Z, v2 @% X0 d* z* L* v' [
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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yqw8422
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好，看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么？
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表" s( E& i% t1 ?- o$ H4 ?, J5 R% u0 H. M

! E$ I& F3 U" N# n5 l4 O9 R干什么？承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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dboy
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵，我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西，用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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rigel
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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KlauB
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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fisher
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译，翻译，最近英文水平下降了，又不想查字典，，，，，，
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豺狼
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力，8要装骚发浪，要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”，怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅？
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jam
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”？
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rigel
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区，但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
5 X; c9 r- ~4 T; a* o* Z0 v1 L实际上你只是一个安全保护专家
4 E* `9 Y& t4 w% [7 U我工作与一个安全公司，我向我的客户提供安全服务
  w5 t# K2 v# V& u, U我只是在这里有一份工作，我不是来打仗的，我在82空降师的时候就已经在
5 D/ \: B9 t6 D! a阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了，假如你觉得你是战争的一部分，或者你想成为战争的一部分。3 \( C- h& Q  y) a+ D, R, Y
去当兵吧。
  s! l6 p8 _" o6 \. W# C0 T那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑，我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队- W4 w2 y9 Z7 T5 D
我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做，但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳
$ X9 H' x2 ]" {' E来这里干活而已。
' n+ d7 C5 C; c- j& g. B, B未完··········翻译的不好，让英语高手见笑了·········. ]+ L; S9 M% M: a0 o
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
0 ^' K  U& V: jall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me ) V  c4 K1 |% F# t& f
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... ; T- N! d0 u7 p6 ?5 t

6 J0 L" t* M7 e" v6 V& }7 s' Iyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up * g4 E) q3 n0 Q: K, o3 J
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
; V2 q+ D6 @4 X7 F, f. hthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
/ q4 }/ r9 y* v* j( O( xdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
& S. r2 }& H$ e- t2 qcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS 8 ?+ x0 q. ^# |
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, 0 x7 r% Q2 ?9 o9 |/ f
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like 1 @9 z- L) F: ~
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
* v6 J- j4 w4 T  }* n8 `3 T3 Mcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
- C! U. v# H" Y) tis war. ; \0 ^& W; F2 G
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior & o& i2 |; O/ L/ \
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
: ?$ L6 b2 s% Z  Bup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
: h* B2 D9 l* C& {5 ~couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that . V$ N$ n- i7 f6 p, |
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher ) H# V- T) D1 N$ n$ w$ L' `
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 4 B: D( e8 _0 O3 J  W7 D
whatever you are calling yourself today. 2 U8 l2 J6 P) y& b2 q, @
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my point is this........You as a private security contractor are 4 Q+ n: M2 w  x- \2 C! D
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
3 E& T$ p' D, [+ s( X8 s4 Nhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your ; k* x) b# I+ Z$ t6 c
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
8 e* t: _) W( x% E; ^% g2 Oand start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
$ x4 W. a, k' K* I4 v  Zengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa " h1 Z8 i& w9 F
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
: o( l! x  L1 N& Mdo is defensive.
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0 Z) o; x# J" Y( G9 ~) C2 s" GHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
- n  q1 |) m& @4 Ainexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they 4 i( h2 J& ^* W) R/ ~$ }
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how % S) y0 x. O7 L' t
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 4 N: s& G( p9 f9 v( D7 B
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
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so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
7 Z" i4 F& c, b7 Kbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, ' b2 ]. ]7 A! \9 M6 Y0 C
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
6 M% @7 o  }! l0 |% Ecompanies? ) k2 H1 N" D3 f* ^

% e  }8 s2 B( r! C* R  U3 m- janyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
, P0 \9 d8 w8 `  nprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
) ^% {0 H- U1 {6 X3 H& h: |to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧，我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈
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金山翻译版本已经删除……
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3 ^6 U& Z9 o, [% [5 g/ \[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表) i6 D+ c- q) ~( f; j$ `. S& m  O5 `
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.

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* e  x7 q9 |/ @) d, e. B& I$ K0 R开玩笑，金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表+ n, o9 x: h1 F- F& A' b" B8 U
这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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# m; h; M$ _& o$ V9 t; s+ j不是巴，老大，今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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删了，多一事不如少一事，闪阿
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