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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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Just becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you 1 e4 W8 ?; i" b4 Q5 x. j. _/ j7 r
a combatant "Dude" * [+ ~: l/ Y! ?
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In fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD"
! r# L1 M- h4 S9 _' swhatever cool term you can come up with this week.
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4 a! ?8 x' g& z! \5 dI work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i ) A5 K0 q- f  g5 i% w$ b
provide "security" for our clients. 2 _. ^1 M4 D5 D9 ?) ?+ E; a6 F

' w( A; s4 }# E5 X% |6 s" j# RI only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight
8 h  p( ?% |8 {5 ea war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with 1 M9 Z- S6 ?5 p4 b0 E( i
the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you   V) C! a9 g) b1 g8 F7 U, U) L
are part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the
) ^9 `+ B1 x8 W" e3 P! I, Tfreakin army!
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0 o8 Y/ @: D) s8 j) \) JSo many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details, $ U$ o; {2 ~8 P. {
and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on 5 R$ |2 U# ~4 f; ?: U$ C3 f
DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in
2 G8 p2 L. [5 [  M  V$ ]1 tfayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they
0 d/ z( ]. R5 Y4 [+ v+ N; h& Chave their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy? * W  w9 \( ?  ?0 B  ]
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are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon * l% f3 H( ?# F9 x
off and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying : j/ v& S* F* T$ d% }% G7 t
clint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
. ?2 ^$ @& y2 oother than the IZ that you will see! $ N0 I& C& ~+ r  [7 E1 ~
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and : Q8 @' s* ]' l
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up 4 X+ H; e; O: ~# u; [2 n: Y
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
" D5 L) l: h. Pthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I 6 {3 r5 i) s3 r2 ^
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our   f; Z/ d; Y2 i/ k4 x
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
7 k8 R" b" m2 M3 j5 ~' m# rand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, ) z6 z! l0 t& H
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
8 w; [! f, B% N% D( O3 U+ han Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im   o' I3 @( b9 D+ {8 I4 |
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
& a  ~! s  g9 H3 s5 w9 Sis war. " X$ e; p8 i; F$ I
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior 7 u5 E3 e: |5 g( N
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
3 `% x$ ^. r5 X( o; K5 V: vup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who & z# n9 T5 S' W) z) q
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that % s) _) b3 Z5 y  s. t
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
! D1 Q7 Q' ^9 C6 T% X% e, _than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
7 a) Q$ V" C8 ~% x2 z6 kwhatever you are calling yourself today.
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my point is this........You as a private security contractor are $ m9 Z, \, L$ b& @2 ?
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
, J. W! `  @" N- ehim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
1 u" k* ~% {$ Pjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
# ^: Y4 q5 _# o; ]; z# n3 S, ~and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
# P: M8 B6 ~% G1 Cengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
7 b: Z' |0 ?% F: G: ~there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
  d, q* o- |. d) M/ e  Bdo is defensive. ) z! v+ ]$ s! K+ o

4 J: V8 s, ?+ ~  C8 YHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
4 l/ z1 B% V1 ?inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they : f' p* ^+ W: L" P$ E6 D6 q
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how ' k9 M( l& r8 b' S, R9 T. [
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 2 N; v' m; d: x
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
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so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, % ^5 k2 N: V+ Q; z3 k
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
4 p' r: ~& y" c9 zyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these " m( M3 J& R9 Y
companies? 0 k7 M4 ^: {7 K# L9 g
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anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
# |5 w8 t" @% N; f; fprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem 7 V, i) I/ w7 l
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子
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; `5 p" \; Y& p' M4 p6 q1 [6 w杀就杀嘛" j. }6 f- M3 }9 P  }8 _) e  f
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哪儿来这边么多名堂7 A( M% Z( S7 H- B1 m: H" E& o6 N

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全部杀光光
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2 G0 u0 B) ?+ F哈哈: E  w) H7 @1 ^" S
杀杀2 E2 `' J# d! u$ A0 J. G2 O

6 d. }8 H' |- a$ U) L4 E他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是
+ w0 U! F/ U7 H2 H  r$ I0 Z现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
; A* o/ i' _; L1 U不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~7 \% I) \9 V0 y$ V7 ?8 D2 i
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表/ ]$ x4 e3 C8 K$ e8 I2 w6 v( m
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
2 s9 R( L& {5 q偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈; d6 L6 u' }. }9 x, F
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又不是见不得人; @0 }6 m# d8 q% ?0 t) S- T/ n$ u

8 n- t0 k2 W$ `: u: e这世上人比鬼多
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多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表) z  h, X( M6 J( W# w
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~

6 J2 X7 ~/ @( Q" U/ I! t干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?6 |. Z# J8 ~  N3 y! w
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不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~! F7 ]2 t" _0 q5 G6 v

1 X+ ~) p3 T+ @8 J' I5 p让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???7 o2 j1 [  Y- R0 s5 C
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对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。
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[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~
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电视都有双语广播啦~
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表
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# ]  i" ?7 q1 |, p! r9 C  Q干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
& Q3 N2 k# k' C- w/ ~实际上你只是一个安全保护专家
$ d  V0 w; J& G- j% h) j我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务
$ C) w* D+ n5 D8 a) u, y: D& _* t8 c我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在
% P& L# \  W2 D" N5 A5 h, o8 Q阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。
, Y5 X5 [) q8 s9 v/ D去当兵吧。
" L, u& w7 m4 ?- x, H2 F. E那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队8 ^7 B* ?2 m" e
我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳
/ u  F" v) W% o: {! b$ S来这里干活而已。: B: k! a% t$ y! k. v  L
未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
4 R' m- d5 L4 R) j) B) Gall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
. m0 x! g( X# g4 ]/ i4 karound safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
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. T& z  w  {) D6 \. n' S" gyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up 7 s4 r$ l, h$ g/ V0 @8 x
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
' }0 |3 X; r2 H! y9 \0 Nthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I . a( O6 J! }( F' G& q; K* j
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
4 g5 B2 a/ Z# }- w4 hcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS ; c& K# G+ f+ C8 B' {
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
; ~. v# _$ C/ U1 t. D0 Uthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like   L# a# j& [2 H. t" w$ Z# ^- ^
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
; p" w7 t& V' }/ X" ocool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this 7 }: ~: R; |0 k4 I1 V3 d% v4 x1 o8 T
is war.
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior   j5 k: i7 X' B( J  ?" l0 ~
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it : `" y* e% g0 i4 D" P# D, }
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
0 c9 W* [) d/ ^' x8 q9 z. X% bcouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that 3 ]2 ?) h, K2 [+ Z5 A
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
& J) Z- l. d& R$ K; R, a6 Ethan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
) u* \2 o( T+ |# l/ ?whatever you are calling yourself today.
1 O  l2 P7 h* ]$ F1 q% ~0 c7 Y: X# O; r9 _0 a1 |9 p+ n* E4 T: Q3 m
my point is this........You as a private security contractor are   N# Y6 h' s0 `& y
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase : I2 @1 j9 [: W& E
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your 3 V5 I. i$ M# T6 b7 Q( Y! Z
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
8 G8 ?6 n6 a) M; H3 jand start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if * X0 R( ^$ W; n) w9 E
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa 3 o# L* o/ d9 r, g6 H% R% E- L
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
: w0 V- ^  B( g' e" c/ @' P/ G' e! |+ k! kdo is defensive.
/ w) \3 M$ Q, ~; l0 U
+ w, y+ K% Y. |  ^7 VHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of : N; V- |9 j7 S' A, s6 Z1 [' x4 m
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
- O5 A0 p, L4 r, [8 atoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how ; q* X+ F& k/ H
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 3 A* X9 B0 V, c1 ?8 S* h
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. * {. p2 S* ^0 p4 s- A  q7 q

1 t/ @4 I9 M3 Lso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
: J0 z+ V1 W6 G7 \because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, $ M) Z! t  F1 I, z
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these : t: r( @* I) `' X7 U
companies?
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' D, w3 s$ [& Canyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
, N7 o; q/ h1 {! _2 }7 Hprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
/ `( K+ O! s+ X) yto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈5 q3 R( q9 s& h5 p

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" \0 g; ~- G8 a  I0 k金山翻译版本已经删除……: M$ t  f, W8 T3 |0 J1 z$ Y+ A1 c

- E: A, F% l4 X0 T  a[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表% ^) @( f$ e% {5 T
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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9 ~  W) n, R8 F0 j0 v, a  \$ u, h开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表+ O$ i+ G! ]9 w3 y, {' h; |  z
这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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