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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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Just becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
1 b0 p. t8 s2 z3 wa combatant "Dude"
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In fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD"
; E3 Q; O! f# W% qwhatever cool term you can come up with this week. * h- R$ n  [9 Y* M

& I& N  n3 @& oI work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i 2 }( b5 e; p2 C6 x3 F
provide "security" for our clients.
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I only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight   U2 \  R$ E5 i1 a
a war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with
8 q) J: J, O: p, y& T$ Z! lthe 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
1 m; n3 Z+ X, \1 M# fare part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the
) l& [3 d% V1 ffreakin army! 6 Q( p! b, [& B! S* q! \6 V
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So many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details,   H" L2 f9 w) |, Q
and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on
) N# B) y  F. U( M4 `3 x7 ~1 J6 zDCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in
; ~# a1 F- r' \8 {! V2 Rfayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they
2 w' h' C( e& e  ~2 Y- d. E& U# `- R* Ahave their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy?
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: d6 @8 w1 ?. T( Hare you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
$ J2 H- G% C5 I  A1 Y  k; Joff and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying 9 X, m* r8 T+ C  f. ]
clint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
1 X4 Y; k- j7 K* t& B) _0 C4 Bother than the IZ that you will see! ; V# W+ I& _4 c( }

& P8 s0 g, w9 s. gNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
1 [) R" J: U3 gall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me + W2 S5 K: ^- W( y0 k. r
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... 5 c0 f; a8 @  Z. |0 H' m
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up ; e/ j3 W: R  X! c  i; u
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
- D8 w, _1 H2 u) Wthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
" ^5 H5 J# \. R' Jdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
, X  v$ e0 i# s, t) [( h6 ?0 icoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
7 e& D9 D7 g5 Y5 X9 w2 |and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
1 E0 F: O5 `, j* qthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
0 Z( v# ~9 N  h4 d5 Ian Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im ' ~1 A1 P/ D) W0 G# H. G
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this , B  u2 {0 R5 |- R9 x) k: J" |
is war.
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, s' v9 q0 R' hBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
0 G. e( |1 L1 `9 w' sspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it . M5 l* w! v1 Q# |
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who 3 _2 @% C9 H2 S( ?7 w: S- \
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that 2 V7 J: ]* J! @  n" k1 f
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher   g: t# C( R9 {1 L; w* z
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
$ d2 p; e  D5 A/ b& o2 ewhatever you are calling yourself today. 0 d3 i% Z0 o3 C# `0 `

% H. I+ t( z! H! V( rmy point is this........You as a private security contractor are 2 n9 i0 [6 @' n# _" t
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase 2 {' r9 E  b$ A- P4 }0 C
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
+ Z, v6 @) M: e! r# F7 [1 d; H4 t- P6 pjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out ( y! C; c. r5 s6 g5 U/ G
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if 5 P3 x# {% s: c" d4 |( J% M, d1 O
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
! w9 f0 }3 @, athere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we & X5 x( r5 G5 e9 C% K
do is defensive.
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How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
( q( ?& n& F( z! ]' T. E6 ninexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
8 w. a' n0 V: i: s' r' ptoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
" j3 ~; Z9 s; o; K9 {6 Vmany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
& n# F% c% B0 }: Y3 e' Zwhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
6 O" [1 A8 q) ^" a* G+ i( A  K4 M. n3 F+ k! q8 g6 B5 Y& b
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
3 c  X' [* R7 q! nbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
, d, M" D, ^: U! }6 m# ]yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
: ~6 c6 [7 I" N* g4 s! W5 [companies?
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! W+ ^" `5 F" I; U* }7 Y/ y* \anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
' w$ i, x- @  ]professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem " X! e6 `- h0 Y
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子
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杀就杀嘛
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哪儿来这边么多名堂+ ?" k; h- ~" L1 \7 L/ @

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全部杀光光
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杀杀
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他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是( R1 N* i% e4 g# l! @
现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
; V" l" e+ h5 K# R不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~7 ?$ G& Z2 e$ V  `7 w# b. K. t
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表7 E; R, q: q* k7 i9 m
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~" W/ c, r- N. O, @- d2 ^
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~

$ @) J! [1 y% i& k! b干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈
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又不是见不得人
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8 _2 M) E- z; N这世上人比鬼多7 n- ]: u5 J! P4 W

& {+ Q- `7 R% g/ E( j多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表7 f9 B0 n0 s  L" ~4 \
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?
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( p3 L% Z* U/ _* Q- L% T不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~
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让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???2 t- P4 _2 m* G

7 v2 Z) D1 T$ `6 ~0 X* \' J对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。
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[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~" W4 ]3 ]( q) a& E- _

9 v5 ?& e* V) I& C1 B7 h电视都有双语广播啦~4 g; l6 J" ~  z2 u3 A$ h
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
5 A0 h+ c5 R  `. U9 N实际上你只是一个安全保护专家
" i$ Q/ O3 X6 k4 z) p- V; A我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务/ \  i" U2 v8 t  K) Q/ g
我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在
1 `& F  P7 L) h阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。
4 ^7 l. z( ^6 o0 ^. q0 f去当兵吧。
1 |% F) R% z- g/ }, a3 H- P5 z0 p那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队4 m+ Z+ `+ c: r# b8 @& B) G
我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳
  V) O% I8 i+ h, L9 d- G* \来这里干活而已。. `, H* o# z3 W$ q
未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········! g2 q+ ?/ B4 ?
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and 1 U* }- J& s' G8 N
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me 7 E( G% \7 V: D6 [) q% j+ `  c
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... 5 x2 q, `8 B* d7 N$ M- a

8 N3 _( P' R2 u4 s" j5 o! uyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
! P# I2 P$ i2 ?" ^+ |5 k6 H) Rwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
4 O* }4 W* r8 p/ C& g' ?the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
0 Y( ^& `$ q; X  p7 {dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
0 ^9 b8 r/ E4 G- A4 ucoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
% L& G7 q$ [& I9 j2 ?7 N7 h/ ?and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, 5 Z: ^* R2 g1 u- `$ z
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like + P2 v2 I+ x5 {0 ]' ]
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im 9 N1 @" e$ f/ q8 {/ n; i
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this # q8 e5 Z( E" }
is war.
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* D% Y7 p/ x4 k  ?But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
  x6 e, K9 f$ C# ^- tspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it ) L6 ^* e2 F/ o: }- Z7 A6 x- I
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who $ |8 N3 r; Q9 f5 e
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
. L& z% s' v% [% R& iyou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
9 @; n8 [" C4 }, v( j0 U" Gthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 7 M8 ]" F5 M1 T7 C) |& @6 A
whatever you are calling yourself today. 0 E. U0 O3 J6 x& d* k* F7 d

* [" ~  j- s( Q0 ]- ^; l& Hmy point is this........You as a private security contractor are
  {, I5 D; S* v) ^just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
  r: ]' h8 C# P" z4 S% ^him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your * A- S- E$ H- d$ h
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out + `' [$ A; _8 c% S3 p
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if " {$ ?% `7 Z+ m1 x) o
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa ; p6 N7 i) w% ^2 s
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we ' h: k% N2 Q+ W5 M7 f
do is defensive. 7 A# g  Q8 N3 S

# I/ j( f, B' [# f, w& o0 `How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of 3 R0 _/ E) j2 b; q
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
# q7 R! U5 v+ k7 M7 y7 btoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how / |) K1 U% ]( n% h8 W+ X- @3 `; G
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
" r; r! F/ s! _. F' x& Iwhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
. q. e2 O0 g$ H2 q& Z! Q0 g/ m% l- q5 z8 d
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
+ u  ^8 W7 q/ ?& fbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
6 K# n1 D5 K$ t& P( n" _  hyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these 7 N2 w% \2 ~+ z+ ^* s
companies? - L0 o: l2 `$ n9 G
0 h% p6 O8 [! B. X0 S$ B4 r
anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
: r& u  f- V$ `6 ~1 h1 W7 K+ sprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
3 j. T) W( T; K& u- oto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈
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金山翻译版本已经删除……
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1 x7 o$ h" R# Q, }[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
8 b8 o# W0 L3 I$ O5 ^3 m楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表
9 E$ D$ t2 f( {/ [2 B" Q: Z这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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2 [; [6 M* ~; z+ J# k不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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