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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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Just becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
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In fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" ! e: e; L0 U, v  I
whatever cool term you can come up with this week.
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6 O. b4 g, S( H6 \I work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i ; N4 l, l7 J% g" G  x3 x$ D5 n
provide "security" for our clients. * E2 q4 D3 _' ?( i4 d

# E. c9 D, i$ H% K6 PI only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight
7 h3 Z1 o; k( W- x7 l1 o8 r& Ca war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with
; ?( ~9 w- J. J3 S- Ythe 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
# s3 {+ t+ F; Q9 \3 Uare part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the
; b7 Q/ D& K# F$ X4 [$ q, O0 a+ lfreakin army! ' e: \, a2 c) K/ H
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So many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details, $ v: Q3 {. W; K
and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on 0 I4 H% i) G( a7 I: r
DCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in
1 d6 H$ u% f4 Efayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they
3 `* G1 M, V. T# U. i0 Ahave their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy? # I6 h! ]& B! _. L9 T; j
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are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
6 `2 k: b5 p. ?5 |/ M' eoff and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
, m% r0 |; N; b- b5 n/ i! Jclint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
$ f. b4 G  b8 e5 L9 `3 K6 uother than the IZ that you will see! 9 U. v* |4 f1 Y! K0 d! c
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
: k1 L& y8 z8 F. K0 }all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me # l' N" E' Z; J/ E
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... & X* t4 ~4 U0 W9 q& l

' t- Q  Z; m, j- Y! H! Pyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
; Z' }/ C  ]* }- Owith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
9 l; W. \3 \$ E/ j  ythe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
- u% `& I# E& |, V, |dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
! T  ]- k8 _" _3 M" `coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS & g5 {  j$ _8 h0 n
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, 1 ~) j; Q9 L; V/ `  w
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
/ O" j4 S2 y  Z. kan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im # Z# c. A; O" _& ?7 e8 u
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this $ n. y; K0 k: R, [# ]8 n
is war.
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; g$ H& J9 ^4 y% |" ?$ {3 t# NBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
; H) q! A& x+ T' N$ Sspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
5 R4 ^+ v3 g. W1 s' |up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who * F% o- B3 J8 K
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that / y4 l5 Z: B- w* C1 f4 _$ L
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
" J( w) ?- h! {$ i# athan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
% ~# y( p/ s( q' [0 G+ @; Wwhatever you are calling yourself today. + N- q1 O* Q, C  M, H. L8 E

  z6 P$ J2 \! _my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
% l; z# w( }4 S1 C; z: Njust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
1 J" g5 {$ x. P+ u/ qhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
9 ]5 L, V! G1 ~% [job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out / ~8 [* x" w% J' Y3 q2 u
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
* U2 f  t' a0 I8 r7 |3 ]9 b: z9 cengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa " I) L: Z" G) u) n/ c. V6 \0 g
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
* u; ]) b9 ^6 qdo is defensive. 4 V- |( s- N6 l- ~
& F" ~3 `1 i/ E' L$ a
How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
& g3 Z% K  d2 V$ N" B: F$ Ainexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
' [( P! h7 o4 u) b" n6 ?# d, F/ R2 ]9 ptoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how ; R" a% S: d, v, U  ^
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad + X4 E& H  ~* @4 `5 K$ U
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
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4 K5 W' l/ @5 B7 a) {( ?so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, 0 d' h* u$ s1 C: s: N: z' r. S
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, 9 X% `0 o3 L' c) y/ X
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
  b* {7 e9 W" I. Ocompanies?
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9 p# t* _6 D* w: J: e6 Z# eanyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security " {8 ~  x" Q5 H" T
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem ( t7 {2 x2 y- j8 y: M" b; u
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子5 D% ~9 d/ D; Q8 K& j# u

6 x+ t. F/ M* Q" @$ J* s/ Y杀就杀嘛
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哪儿来这边么多名堂
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. s' a2 j# e& O# _全部杀光光
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( W, d  e7 e# f/ r哈哈
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, F7 P: ]( t7 M% o% u" e( b* C他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是
# |6 T# T! q7 Q0 M/ x8 E+ y现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······4 ?: U0 z- j. K7 u9 o( G
不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
9 ]. A- w+ x) p2 c; c5 u0 D0 x偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表& F5 ?1 H4 ?/ \) T
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
* h  z& x. L2 ^* C# ]偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈
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& P" ]" i/ u& X杀就杀嘛
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2 _4 `: K+ t3 T( U# B又不是见不得人; }) `- a! U4 I& v& H" r2 m

: S1 C$ z3 q) Z这世上人比鬼多
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多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?
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% `! x2 v) |  q# y* `# u, I不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~& M) M3 G6 e1 }9 h9 i
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让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???
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对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。
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' D1 \' J- r; h; J[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~
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电视都有双语广播啦~" z) }5 Y" T; \
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表+ A& l7 w# u/ p" S+ r9 X
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
* W$ e) `/ G; {7 a实际上你只是一个安全保护专家5 v/ x' N) S8 G3 w  f. o: K8 j
我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务, l5 B6 i! `& W  c2 l
我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在# h6 `" c. P2 \  z( d* F
阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。* f- \* f0 Z. K( G2 j4 k
去当兵吧。
5 L* E- H4 s7 E) O3 Y0 }那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队( {2 B' r: _7 p+ g# a1 ?/ c
我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳
; ^6 G) G& h6 n3 [+ T9 o来这里干活而已。4 B( g; C& }9 I" J- c
未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········
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: n  D' _- T* V1 ^/ C) vNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
" x* y8 T( Q* A" c, Oall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
7 R- z% c$ {  v- e/ L8 P+ o$ n4 Iaround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... 8 O; y; L  i- G2 l* M! K
1 Y6 b- l5 W# q- s) J& \
your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up - p% f, o& s$ r& m+ T
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
8 O, z9 Y* I. a: v- M% O& gthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I 5 s! k% [# S7 [! t& y% i% Y: z1 W
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
: A9 P2 A* M! b7 C3 kcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS # J; _5 [0 [3 z% z
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
1 d  }. i) v/ X: a" q( nthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like $ c! F! ]) F3 \3 @3 P1 t0 Q
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
( N; S* K$ O5 d# y, g9 }2 O2 ~6 qcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
  j$ ^& @+ l! m# V0 F( Mis war.
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7 X0 T9 M' s# u9 U& K( a  {1 c, ZBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior 5 ^+ W8 C" C! D5 x5 z
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
* }$ i4 y- J7 Fup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who + S0 G9 Y2 N; `# t0 [6 `# f
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that 7 R% a  x3 [+ }+ N
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
3 ]1 C+ C% N6 nthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" $ u8 R! d% M: S8 y" R1 k
whatever you are calling yourself today. 4 m  z+ R% F6 I% \: H7 j2 C5 a
6 F$ m) M: R1 s8 q2 L  Z
my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
0 ]# c# R  T7 E# @. R3 Djust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase 9 d3 X. b2 F/ q/ q# Y: M6 T- z
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
2 U: P  X/ i2 Mjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out 9 w% p. l0 Y( a4 f/ e, |
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if , f! c  h6 S( N9 ]2 p. l
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
4 ?! |6 a  v* l1 L& Ethere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we " W. K  Q' y5 p; W( @: X- H- {
do is defensive.
; E8 f3 X9 M0 Z
9 I; ^2 o9 {! Q5 c* F  X+ XHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
  Z! t+ H6 G0 O0 n7 |; _. h6 Pinexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
/ L* n  h( ^! u! Ptoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how $ p# e$ u  E5 }! x. ~8 n
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 9 O. y6 @  u9 n5 H+ u' g" v0 V
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. 9 H- L3 {- h- ?5 l' o( L
  d' q* ~4 \' W1 _
so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
4 R( I1 N: D( s! W) Zbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
/ P% G1 K0 }# I' Myet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these 9 @# f4 `- z, B6 ^8 J
companies?
& [; @6 s% h7 y: I0 {5 @* F( P# t+ [" X' ^- V* h6 P
anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security 3 \6 A  U/ w- A$ \8 ^/ i9 X
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem 8 O2 g/ l2 D+ n3 w' B1 {" A0 E9 r
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈# w) l8 X5 J" g+ A* T/ m

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& o" z1 V& `* m; h金山翻译版本已经删除……+ n( S2 t: g( R8 D
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[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表. X5 `) }# k; X  v
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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. @) J- u. R* ?7 x8 ^开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表4 f% P2 k: Y( U! r
这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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