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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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Just becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
, V" m8 [* O$ qa combatant "Dude"
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In fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD" 9 Z- b" W1 t1 D. F3 f0 a- H; `
whatever cool term you can come up with this week. ( h; C+ g3 o" M" a% e% C$ g* f

1 E6 O& {, b; DI work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i . m- h! E  q0 I7 S# O1 ~
provide "security" for our clients.
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# U, S2 i) _4 S) Z, Q( EI only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight
4 ~; Q, T9 u) `$ \  I+ D6 qa war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with
8 q8 w7 \" G7 F+ }. q  s( \the 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
) L; F7 l  D; eare part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the
6 i, F( {. \  _$ Jfreakin army! 6 Z: i4 s0 V( j7 h* m! B9 x" X

7 J# ~  h: v( V( v1 [: kSo many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details,
; c3 a4 f! j: _- Gand i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on
: i. ?0 ?) @8 jDCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in
8 _7 Q! |  W, |4 Z2 }; t; ffayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they ' P- d; c& \5 |& h
have their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy? 7 ]  f% r6 q- B. R! G+ [) w. G
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are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
# E! g% D, D/ Z& ioff and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying 7 O/ E( _4 J& l/ ]0 G! `' a
clint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
2 K5 a+ X  d  g2 }5 e3 [, S  R! Yother than the IZ that you will see!
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' ^: ^" ~& k5 E* `$ R' h7 {Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and * _4 C! W2 U  I/ Z3 i, F8 {$ }
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
' {' S. A4 O! s, t+ h7 @: Z4 [around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
( R2 ?% R6 ^2 ~; i/ r& |; J- h1 [. R4 Z9 A9 `
your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up ) o9 [4 V' b. v% ~5 Z& Z( |
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
- @+ c8 U$ l  _: O& cthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
* R. u4 b5 S3 x4 l8 ydare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our 4 A2 z0 Q2 \8 B
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS 0 e  ~( ]) v" q* B5 D
and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
2 [7 @, R( G4 y2 H! mthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
9 [" m, P& x5 San Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
8 d) h1 {. o# [! W* w5 ocool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this ; I8 B) x+ T7 ~% e+ Q- O
is war.
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior ( N$ V1 J& w$ D0 L1 k, _8 S
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
' c2 k+ C4 ^7 F! @6 q1 m0 Kup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
! k% f+ V% m7 A+ Y* G8 w( T0 ucouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
3 e' f3 I  K3 ^7 Q' p' Ryou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
) c* ?5 f& T, F* \* @- uthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 3 v' K0 P8 t+ R7 v( j; @
whatever you are calling yourself today. - N' _1 j7 q2 M# |& t9 D& |, ^. {, h

; ^7 z( y0 ~  y; |my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
3 K6 Y$ [, \4 S$ c/ Fjust that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
, f( U" [4 w& g- B: Jhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
! O) N6 g3 Y7 [; Zjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out 9 i; k9 {2 D- u8 L8 n
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if 8 G7 ~9 X- G# s, @7 C6 M5 D4 u! m
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa ) H0 k+ ]# B7 p8 A% v
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
7 o9 t7 t" [1 Ddo is defensive.
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How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
" q7 T) a4 `) G( V+ A: oinexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they   ^4 F2 t6 U; N3 G1 ^9 e$ |& B
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
! t# q: f+ m4 N- umany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad ' N% @7 v6 g* V9 V* f6 u; o
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. * L2 i  K8 n$ i9 ^/ L
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so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
9 J: G- i: X2 o( I7 H# P" v+ x5 cbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
, b  |$ H( w9 Q4 }% E! d) ?yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these 9 f/ T6 O" P. T) c  J
companies?
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anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
( \/ b  n& M& L( D, C" ~6 u, uprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
- R+ s8 I6 \- uto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子' s8 T) V2 L5 E

. X) T7 Y1 W8 F/ H杀就杀嘛7 k1 F% w$ w9 ~' j
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哪儿来这边么多名堂
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全部杀光光( Q* n+ L- x. ^9 t5 s! ]

1 k$ @2 |% P6 m6 C/ M哈哈
+ E" [) F& A7 F  R. a$ P! f9 r杀杀" @, a# E, r2 n* i* p- j
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他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是! Q  K$ I) p* U( M" {
现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······
( z" [6 F5 ^9 x" N$ q5 T* ?不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~
9 W) `3 s/ o8 V; ~) n9 Q$ n0 k偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表
  y: q1 ]2 n/ E: j4 S% ]但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~, j/ y, |1 }( t
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~

7 B$ K& ~4 `4 t3 m) |干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈
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又不是见不得人4 Q/ @) E8 h; F2 _% S  [* e( ^& v
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这世上人比鬼多
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# z9 f! w  [% O) m+ Q( }  q2 @多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表4 T2 O- X5 u: i+ o
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?
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  d3 y* v- Z% g- u. ~/ q3 J不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~
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让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???
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# v& B& K# r) c( h8 g2 s* W对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。8 j5 K3 e- M+ J/ G) \
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[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~. q( z7 [- M4 F& H

+ U; l% H8 Z% d% N( T- O电视都有双语广播啦~6 b4 a( [  P. I& b) i
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表9 N. T. a5 ]% W  A/ r5 }
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶

9 S+ b8 g& Q0 ]% Q7 |2 ^如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家) j1 ~0 ~; ?8 q# \
实际上你只是一个安全保护专家
1 o5 j4 z8 L0 `1 _6 {& f8 R. `我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务
! k- Z/ z. I: J. v6 `' o我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在
) }4 f/ W9 H; W阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。* ], r7 z" j5 N- y- E
去当兵吧。" l# i+ W* \6 [6 X
那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队
! {5 G: @) N$ @我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳' ^4 ?9 |- a6 q7 @7 N5 H& X
来这里干活而已。
: U  \* E* _2 `5 w( Y" Q  H: x/ C5 ^未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········' G  m4 \" U8 ^
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
  a6 W# f; q5 b& H/ wall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me
* G3 i0 V* o  h" V" G5 caround safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... 7 C2 J/ S! j( }4 v* p4 z' q6 m
4 s9 }' S2 e: Y8 F0 ?
your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up ; m3 J0 }+ J  I" ?4 l0 U' P& V! `
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
; X0 p# B  Y- D: H; ythe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
, M  K* E+ e8 sdare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
( g2 V1 d, K2 |3 r6 _* ]6 S+ v. Jcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
* C2 |4 e( }9 R; K6 `and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, ) u8 q( y( _1 G( }/ L" d
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
; }' i4 N0 Z) i3 m  k1 {3 jan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
9 z( S, E( I0 [1 |6 Z5 Ccool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
9 G* ~: Q8 L- M/ wis war. 1 r! i9 B& L: e# Q1 I4 L" M
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior 7 D2 Q1 }) X8 ^' O
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
. O4 d5 T4 y9 V" Y; O, e- |3 _# Cup either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who 3 ^) u6 P3 v- i; D
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that ) ~! }! F( C! T* t& x9 A1 b. s
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
4 j% C8 @2 s# U  B- B+ f! Lthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
* A3 ^  P5 I2 f# X, hwhatever you are calling yourself today. ( J+ L: v7 P! Z
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my point is this........You as a private security contractor are 9 g6 k/ g- [1 L0 {6 Z& ]
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase $ J1 }" M" }, \. }" t
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your ) N& V$ J2 j0 I. O( Q4 i# D
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out 7 N8 \  ~! X* n. V( K" v5 ?
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
  l5 b3 ^* p! u0 Q1 vengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa * \: v9 y$ w* m+ L9 F: \6 w1 Q
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we
" ]% z4 X6 o2 q$ Xdo is defensive. 1 Q& `, S3 a# ^* q4 U- V  e, _
, R( d: s+ ~/ I: v* P8 N
How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
- K- ~! n; a1 U) Q; X4 a3 \inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
; |$ p0 W; F8 h, P; K& N2 Ttoo have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
5 W0 D% Y4 y: @  imany of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 4 E, {% ~1 B" F6 ]$ M$ k+ J
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. ( g5 p; z+ `. B7 V( P; m5 o

  o( {7 f* z9 s- [! a1 [, I* N+ Gso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, 1 w, I7 v1 z: h& H! H, \
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, 4 d7 Y) g* X9 V$ M4 m9 r- t- k4 w" G
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these 4 ~# N7 j  P  G6 j* R7 @" l- X
companies?
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) p2 r. E: M5 P5 s! J* }$ janyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security 9 ?3 R& _4 J8 d) p: [2 ^, Z8 U
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem ) R  u0 s& i& }6 ]
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈
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! G0 J2 v+ \9 J/ g金山翻译版本已经删除……& E9 z7 u; `3 D& R, T
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[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表, w/ K( z( ]' }: g- r3 |
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表
  [8 ], Q$ j* i+ o' h/ n' q8 j这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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$ q  s9 m6 p2 P: S' U& s. E不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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