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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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Just becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you
. h' p7 ?4 I3 I& N0 O) N9 ba combatant "Dude" , `  |" S) {2 A  n, Q2 I

$ E% i& X! ]% OIn fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD"
3 o% G$ ?$ R0 Z! r- rwhatever cool term you can come up with this week. % r9 U& H" n3 J' u; J
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I work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i
2 l; I8 b& v4 u' A4 Z- \provide "security" for our clients.
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& A" [! u' K' F4 b( QI only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight
: v& D: m  y2 a! o- Ra war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with
: q- f4 H; T! d9 O5 Z3 Hthe 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
8 ]3 K# e; k' T5 |% Dare part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the " ]! n# _4 z5 a+ x  ?$ A( H
freakin army!
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) E4 G" B- V7 u, K; O. l/ h  ]" kSo many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details,
0 \  `6 q1 y' g. Dand i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on
+ s% L9 ?# H1 TDCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in
; Y- u1 }) W1 X3 [fayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they
" u2 h+ P- E6 T$ J  |5 w( y" hhave their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy?
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/ n2 o1 _% Z& Vare you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon
( ~% y% O6 B$ |2 H5 H+ u# `off and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying $ [5 n7 R# \! _: a* i1 D
clint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq,
, F3 W- E# J0 O; _* ~other than the IZ that you will see!
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
+ r% [% G3 ~& s$ Wall.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me ' f; ?& U% Q3 p' p$ v
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... 9 `% u0 C0 N1 ^9 q# H
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
8 F" U0 i! i* r+ a% b8 Z- gwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at . m) v8 p& m8 T$ w3 j
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I 2 r7 b/ {6 `  H
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
5 r( s9 Q* K# ^& O/ s/ ucoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
' M1 {9 h6 n8 _and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way,
3 H5 F$ ?( l* U( uthat guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
# N( Z. E" j* M7 q% F: Z' Z9 Lan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im 9 C7 [9 {' N/ Q9 {; o+ v0 n
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
- l8 a: ^$ a% [( M8 [is war. 2 Q$ k0 x( o  y0 k
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior 7 A6 K9 u* N+ i& u$ B
spirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it
0 d  o! Q2 N1 l4 r7 L$ T7 f* {up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
3 h% x8 k! F  Kcouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that 5 ~- J1 T2 n  S% r: j! f
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
  o. Q' ^" \0 v" @0 L$ vthan high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 2 T- Z" s* E6 C9 B0 u
whatever you are calling yourself today.
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my point is this........You as a private security contractor are
4 M9 ~5 `3 J5 J3 ]just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
% [8 q5 W2 k; C6 @2 V9 jhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
  A' Q6 ]- W! H- Hjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
) ]- S6 K- A! s1 B' \and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if 3 X& n2 v( g( }) w
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
% C+ X; N! o' h' m1 s0 v( r. d$ mthere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we ! {( n. A5 V8 Y+ Q' m# g
do is defensive.
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* l' s! Q# e5 Z! iHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of " m; @% C% K4 N! L- Q$ L; r$ L$ Z
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they - D: o# f& ~4 V$ y
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
1 T: R- D' Z! o# }: _many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 2 B2 ?* I. X' l" ~9 o
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian. & e8 l: [6 p# D, o

/ \# a* u6 d2 mso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, " y/ @* K4 e+ c* }; e$ e# z
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem, - M' _+ `! c- g7 N7 i7 R  A
yet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these # e$ J3 }- I, G$ X! V! O
companies?
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. W$ @) n* |  F/ ?* ranyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security ! ^1 ^+ z! @/ q. x/ B+ u9 @& S. G
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
2 W" Q4 q+ T% d5 O- g  Wto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子
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杀就杀嘛
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! {* Q  O8 \" w+ J$ K/ g哪儿来这边么多名堂
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- z  ?+ S/ `) u& Z7 s全部杀光光/ G% S) Q6 d" W9 l7 h9 y
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哈哈
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' e2 R0 h6 O0 \8 W4 y; r9 v. b' z他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是6 Q! |+ `$ n8 v; |4 J
现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······) U) Q! P3 g4 x
不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~7 Q8 A8 g6 X# T5 B7 ]4 P& c: C
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表! A. e$ d5 t. S
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~5 O4 ^; x; Y5 S5 R! Q( z# f6 d
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈
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杀就杀嘛
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3 Q- H" [; u$ ^7 t* w- O又不是见不得人( G5 `+ n; X9 W( L5 H4 y; \* k% D
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这世上人比鬼多
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表" n2 H) P3 q# m: d
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~

/ ?  X0 {$ U) V干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?
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8 v( N3 `4 Y2 i" @: ~不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~5 ]- x9 z# ]! I, K6 p. i

( L" Q- Z+ T! J' x, B7 a# q! L让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???
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对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。
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[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~" ^% \. l0 ]+ c( w/ B3 `
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电视都有双语广播啦~2 H4 A( Q+ J$ Y1 k$ f" ~; W
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表
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; ], o9 O* A# X5 B" g, @/ l- |9 }干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
; X8 s( ^* e$ H% D# v实际上你只是一个安全保护专家/ E4 |, B# M, V4 }7 I% n3 |
我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务
" Y- q' K. e. {+ t7 y+ d我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在4 Z, s6 @/ H, q* [# l- }; W( a
阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。
4 T, O8 Z8 A* o' X, D去当兵吧。
7 Q7 ^9 M3 K9 h- q. m" C那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队8 j# H1 n; L+ D! z
我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳+ v) d4 o* Y! k. B8 ^
来这里干活而已。
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and
* W6 ^3 `$ H* f$ O( _all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me 2 D( u8 f1 k4 y. B! `3 J* `# \3 |1 z
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
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your solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up
( c" ?, z, L: k! m7 h% \1 hwith other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at & F0 l$ K1 w3 Q+ q+ f4 Z
the the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
0 Z8 E2 n: A; a5 l" _dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our & q# E2 j9 W2 n9 K. S9 T
coolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
  B% v- _, E9 {, q* e  Z7 ^* X! Eand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, ! v3 U0 o( h* P7 w1 Y
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like : Q* H3 X/ Y; Q8 n% D0 ]
an Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im 9 J% j/ A6 O' @/ _" C8 I- u
cool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
6 ?) f* P. L( U: `; }9 {# \is war. 0 Y% x5 ]. n1 P* E" _3 c

0 A4 z0 P% h  A6 a- UBut your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
5 N: b) j7 P" yspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it 7 Y1 K2 ~5 k$ M: K3 A6 Y& J
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
3 U1 E0 s5 T+ ^couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
& B& w' H- S" F8 fyou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher % j. N( N' d' `7 t7 y' s! A( H3 y7 E
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" # ^* _+ Q0 \: a( H7 J5 o/ R9 p
whatever you are calling yourself today.
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2 G6 n; \  y. tmy point is this........You as a private security contractor are   r$ Z* i# g- ~) o
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase 1 L' {) s. B$ W' O" ]6 R9 f# d5 D/ Y
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your ! [# e$ {7 l' i, h( r1 B* B
job is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out
3 B0 G0 H( `" ?, T1 nand start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if 9 j8 T$ P/ Y: R; x8 V- e
engaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
  i" Z# P! y, Q& o/ v6 W) wthere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we ! g( j% c! U, @7 d& E
do is defensive.
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8 r  _. V0 g4 MHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of ( ]5 }8 L) C' g2 h  X- X
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they , p# ~, Q! T* \. W
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how
( A) S7 C$ u+ f. {many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
+ W/ a2 b0 c, t9 kwhat they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
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1 f& ~: |, @) ]! Qso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
7 m( F* R/ X8 Z# k1 v6 X& Dbecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
" A9 A2 w: i0 ^! Y  cyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these " W& Q$ P* q4 ^& H; s6 n4 l
companies?
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anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security 6 b( ~  L9 u) t' [; r
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
" z0 \$ P1 n& j! X1 M+ c7 s0 rto grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈. f2 L  K) k1 X
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金山翻译版本已经删除……+ K4 x' d, x) _8 R
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[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表" H% r  N6 l( t8 A1 t1 N
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.

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开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表+ Q# C5 p$ J0 C, X; \" h
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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