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发表于 2005-8-17 22:30 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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' w" h! b8 j% s1 J( O* j, }0 }9 jJust becuase you are carrying a gun in a war zone, dose not make you - I2 e" M' X% O1 [" t: m
a combatant "Dude"
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In fact its that mind set that is gonna kill the "PMC" or the "PSD"
. d% K+ V+ J" p/ ewhatever cool term you can come up with this week.
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2 G# @6 y: e# WI work for a "Security" Company, and thats what I do, i
# g8 v2 v. n' t* |4 t0 S) tprovide "security" for our clients.
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I only have one job here, and that is it.......Im not here to fight ' l# j! Q; A0 s. b% `8 L
a war............I did that already, in afghanistan and irag, with
7 ?; _. r2 d9 W/ N# q% Qthe 82nd ABN..........then I was a combatant. if you feel like you
, ^2 C3 S6 S8 N- g% |are part of the "fight" or wanna be part of the fight.....Join the * e* o3 K1 u* ?: F1 _
freakin army! ) Y3 t( Q$ Z3 ^1 s2 |" a
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So many people roll up and down Route Irish in their "hard" details, . J8 ^( G* _( J- c1 Q( ?5 D9 I
and i swear they think they are like a military unit....they got on
% C0 N; z4 p; c6 R4 s& }/ h# IDCU's......just about every thing that "General Jackson" in
0 D* E1 Q6 T$ M" t6 Xfayetteville nc sells these yahoo's have got strapped to them, they # [4 R9 P. i; {0 p$ }0 F
have their guns out the windows,.....like what are you doing guy?
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are you invading a village I dont know about, are you gonna cordon $ Z7 y* `( A0 e) s# J: Y
off and search a village...........Um....No, your taking a paying
, g: H8 s/ N# D& t  \2 B7 sclint on a 5k ride to BIAP, which is about the only part of Iraq, 9 s4 c2 I1 j* k4 e5 j! s1 |( u) w
other than the IZ that you will see! - \: }5 P- V' j" B

2 S5 S* m! x! Y! BNow let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and # m6 E" f; U+ ]( O! e4 z) O1 k
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me ( y% T# @* `4 K6 m8 ]% k) D- W& W
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc......
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. X8 w- v# U5 P' e5 Z" L  fyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up , a) k, s( Y1 j* z7 y
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
8 T: x6 ?% F5 U/ ?8 e6 N7 wthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I 1 l; O$ h5 I# c3 O/ M' X7 l
dare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
- F. J/ C" \' c( |9 i) `6 xcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
2 A+ F0 H" ^$ }* v. l1 J. P, Wand bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, ) Y$ a7 d4 V0 m
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
+ k7 ^3 p8 ?# dan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
- W" j6 u. R% C- \' \( Jcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
$ u" l! {  ?/ lis war.
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
+ q9 \! `' J  t6 v5 ^2 ?0 W3 uspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it ) @/ o1 c% E+ k4 P% x4 V5 ?) o
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who
7 G# {' L3 x  m. mcouldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that
1 z% o! B" `+ `" F# m6 Y; [* v  syou were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher
# }; v, X; ^) C: k+ @7 R' ]- [than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator" 8 _; G3 A  S) }/ W
whatever you are calling yourself today. 0 i8 b2 p+ C' ^* o

+ _- P7 k4 U9 u( V! C. B" N! cmy point is this........You as a private security contractor are   p. d! }* B0 d/ V% k
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase
/ |4 S9 x! m/ k3 Lhim.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
" {& O5 \/ j6 J- z& `9 M* a' jjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out 8 \, o( ]. T% p; o
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
, C" G( h- M. g  r6 V4 O; Sengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa
+ d, Y+ j. L6 A; Ithere, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we 7 v9 `# |7 D2 ^" m
do is defensive. 2 l: q% H0 \% `8 [3 j% L
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How many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of
7 z9 I% o' ?$ X8 M! e" @6 kinexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they 1 P$ D) e7 c3 h7 A' Q
too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how . ]' Z. g1 e% c% I1 ]
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad 1 o; y1 h  d! H% N6 d5 l/ @5 `
what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
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so because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers, + L1 I3 Y+ \! K+ |' I
because I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
  \+ a: h* v# Vyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
- f! w3 P3 ?8 n5 y& X" Zcompanies?
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7 I. Q9 ^; q/ a' p6 canyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security
3 f( E: y% _' lprofessional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem # U# T. A8 H/ E- @5 J) K
to grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-17 22:40 | 只看该作者
给杀人的扣过另外顶帽子
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# [; ^, |8 r5 C! K: Y! y! P7 L8 B杀就杀嘛8 @1 A+ }% Q* i& i* j# l

# ?5 s0 z5 w! v7 o+ L7 X! ~; u+ I哪儿来这边么多名堂7 M! P6 X" ]$ U/ S9 |
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全部杀光光
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杀杀
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他NND~~干!
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 22:45 | 只看该作者
你个猪头············我们的名声就是败在你这种死猪头身上了············干!!!!
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:03 | 只看该作者
说的也是2 w% R- F3 T/ T% G
现在在大家眼中,基本把承包商和特种部队划等号了
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:06 | 只看该作者
承包商应该是避免介入,而不是主动介入
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-17 23:12 | 只看该作者
壳壳了解的深刻啊······0 _4 X, k9 r/ w4 v& D
不像胡子一样·······
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发表于 2005-8-17 23:24 | 只看该作者
但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~7 R1 t$ |+ r( T3 I( o
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:33 | 只看该作者
原帖由 居士 于 2005-8-17 23:24 发表
4 q9 \" {+ y* o1 `但现在好象都是承包商在干活的说~~~~~~难怪胡子会误解啊~~~~& p+ A  n3 `' D5 W  p$ V/ \
偶也索误解人群中之其中一员悍将啊~~~~~呵呵~~~

0 r. d% L) D% o干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:38 | 只看该作者
找个说法喈8 T+ o" e* N' ?: m/ O& G  _
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又不是见不得人& Y( w' ^9 I2 w, ]' S0 Y- ^
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这世上人比鬼多; L8 C; L, |6 c( J7 J, K

" T$ g3 t% }# k! J6 @) Z  `多杀些
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发表于 2005-8-18 01:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 potato_esu 于 2005-8-18 01:33 发表
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干什么?承包商干保全工作本来就是嘛~

& L1 P+ D) s/ h/ O! J0 b* Y干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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发表于 2005-8-18 02:48 | 只看该作者
那位能翻译一下啊~~~哦土不明白那英文是在说什么?# ?2 }2 Q" w( g

* U2 V. O: v# `' z不过我到觉得无所谓啊因为是工作,人吗总要讨生活的做什么都是一样的,原则上不鄙视任何工作,实际是还是很喜欢不劳而获!撤远了嘿嘿!~~~~~~~
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让我想起了这里《一个死刑犯的行刑失败》一文中的小老鼠,其实它只是想填饱肚子有什么错呢?人何尝又不是呢???
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对与错只是因为利益的不同而产生!其实什么都没有,真的是世上无一物啊。
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[ 本帖最后由 ksc 于 2005-8-18 02:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:17 | 只看该作者

雷哥,你这帖子有中文版的么?

今时今日这样的服务还是不够di ~& k) \' r# B; _' S" T' S& g2 ^% U
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电视都有双语广播啦~
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偶英语差~你原谅偶吧
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发表于 2005-8-18 11:38 | 只看该作者
e文实在不好,看得糊里糊涂的。雷哥有中文版的么?
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:07 | 只看该作者
原帖由 王杰 于 2005-8-18 01:41 发表$ e) a/ m: v* |$ i# d3 B
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干什么?承包商还要给人带孩子洗尿布买菜做饭倒夜壶
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如果任务需要~呵呵~呵呵呵
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:13 | 只看该作者
翻译过来大概意思就是“我们不是士兵,我们是受薪去保护我们的客户的安全。”诸如此类
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发表于 2005-8-18 14:18 | 只看该作者
看着好像是行为守则之类的东西,用的口气好象老鸟对新人的教导
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-18 15:02 | 只看该作者
抱歉啊····没有中文的···大意就是D大和壳壳说的了····
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发表于 2005-8-18 16:14 | 只看该作者
来个中文的嘛
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发表于 2005-8-18 17:49 | 只看该作者
艰难阅读中……
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:23 | 只看该作者
翻译,翻译,最近英文水平下降了,又不想查字典,,,,,,
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发表于 2005-8-18 18:49 | 只看该作者
叫大家8要轻易使用武力,8要装骚发浪,要低调。全文的核心意思就素“安全第一”,怎么有点象《方世玉》里的点穴大师的口头禅?
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发表于 2005-8-18 21:36 | 只看该作者
那还要不要“以德服人”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-19 13:17 | 只看该作者
因为你带着枪在战争地区,但是这并不能使你成为一个格斗家
8 n; \5 E' B* U实际上你只是一个安全保护专家
$ ^1 R6 c! v0 B; e我工作与一个安全公司,我向我的客户提供安全服务3 S# U5 P) N' E( i" ?
我只是在这里有一份工作,我不是来打仗的,我在82空降师的时候就已经在3 k: S: u8 c# K' Q3 ?
阿富汗和伊拉克打过仗了,假如你觉得你是战争的一部分,或者你想成为战争的一部分。
% i$ J! O, c* ]  K% q" J去当兵吧。2 I# y; C# Q# Q; a1 w7 @1 e1 M
那么多人在为这个事情争论和迷惑,我发誓他们一定把自己想象成了军事连队
2 p4 {& E8 @" j. S, `# C$ E我不知道你是不是要去搜索村庄或者准备这样做,但是你只是客人5千块的酬劳8 O4 }6 R6 ]. `" n* f3 [0 O
来这里干活而已。& K, G( ]- V7 o0 t4 o: ?
未完··········翻译的不好,让英语高手见笑了·········; c) L) M. H  {1 I- Q% X* C+ a
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Now let me get this stright, since your a high speed combatant and . _) e. f8 l( `+ h
all.......me "i'll play the client" I hire a company to get me 2 B* P& z8 B8 `* C# s
around safely and without getting shot, killed....etc...... ! Q; h9 g) v; K3 X$ o# g* @

9 ?* E7 i& |$ l+ Zyour solution or your plan, is to stick me in a vehicle, line me up 2 n& A. n( C0 t* F, g; I4 m! U
with other vehicles that look the same, so now we are screeming at
$ ]4 J3 @+ E' [  ^! G1 T1 Zthe the bad guys LOOK AT ME! IM COOL! IM LIKE, ALL "HIGH SPEED" I
8 _  D1 z" G% n2 e7 Edare you to blow that remote detonated IED as we pass by in all our
; Q% I. {; E: N! C2 {' Vcoolness, because you must not have got the memo bad guys.....IEDS
& M( N8 p$ e6 D2 p4 p5 t  ?and bullets wont penatrate our coolness. And......oh by the way, + X6 t; k4 |  }" t4 u
that guy over there, has dark hair and dark eyes and is dressed like
' a) f! n# [7 p5 f3 ~! L  N. Pan Iraqi........Bang.....hes dead.....if hes a bad guy.....then Im
* f- T8 q; D8 W$ F- @9 H# }4 q) Rcool and if hes not, if hes just an innocent civilian, oh well this
: }) O7 I3 b( D/ j3 e! A. ^. tis war. & x* t& D* D! K. u& o% j* q' @( Q
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But your not a warrior! your not a soldier! you may have a warrior
1 b7 D) p* e- n' W' l5 sspirit, which makes you more apt for high risk jobs......but give it : G8 k% F; t( d" r
up either.......you were a soldier once, or your the guy who 5 ^6 Q8 ~+ ?! @/ {6 u2 I/ v  @
couldent make it in the military for whatever reason and think that 4 {/ h% {. M9 _+ o/ G( V
you were just cool enough to skip on the military for this higher : C/ |2 H7 m2 N/ [* k* S
than high speed delta force/SF job as a "shooter" or "operator"
7 G2 z! g6 x2 U( S* \whatever you are calling yourself today.
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) m$ ]( W; h+ @* o; nmy point is this........You as a private security contractor are % |" I- r3 U5 v* {7 a5 }
just that.........your job is to protect your client, not showcase # f% ~; b3 c& J% R- g% N6 Q
him.........keep him/her outa sight not in the spot light and your
, p3 T$ h! W! _1 vjob is not as a combatant.....Uncle sam hasnt asked you to go out ( F- Z$ Y, j0 K
and start a fight...........now you may have a gun, yes, and if
! R& h! J9 R% z+ D, m( jengaged, shoot back defend yourself get you and your client outa - J7 V  @2 {, q& y  z, d
there, its not like your to assult the objective, everything we & s# ]: Q( h* K8 X
do is defensive.
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+ {6 z8 E, S7 R! o  J* T. G: L. mHow many more, innocent civilains, killed by the hands of 5 C$ d$ t: [) V+ B8 C( H( m
inexperienced wanna-bee's, or cars ramed of the road because they
. q- z; U/ V8 z- R& C- ~too have found them selves stuck in traffic as well............how 2 k8 V; [+ F( I# P( n1 L
many of these incidents are gonna happen before we get in baghdad
1 h% A9 ?# w. t9 c8 @% x. `6 i& }what they got in Arbil? where, PSd operations were shut down due to an illegal killing of an inncoent civilian.
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( ]7 N3 X! F: C0 nso because your a yahoo, wanna-be, cowboy.....my work suffers,
; D9 e! @8 d9 Ybecause I cant move...............this is an industry wide problem,
) w2 l+ h/ x. Y4 f9 Cyet it seems to be the norm..............who is running these
9 ?* ^1 J8 x# H* ^0 @; `9 d) F9 B7 C* fcompanies? + V. M" F# Q3 E! T( w* k2 R

5 g% j. N" P9 y. w9 `anyway.........YOU ARE NOT A COMBATANT.....your a security # l' a/ C5 k' N8 v6 Q
professional, though i hardly view you as such, since you dont seem
) H( j4 j: Z7 E, _( ito grasp just what your job is!
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,我就来个金山翻译版本……哈哈哈
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金山翻译版本已经删除……3 h; C* S- a; i1 E0 C

8 r/ K6 V+ u5 d7 Z[ 本帖最后由 酷不理客 于 2005-8-19 16:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:46 | 只看该作者
楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:49 | 只看该作者
原帖由 commandchen 于 2005-8-19 16:46 发表
& f1 N; K$ O- R; `2 a% O; i楼上的你还不如不翻呢,拿个金山快译欺骗大众感情.
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$ t9 Q. y  B: _% v- W  a开玩笑,金山快译2005专业版……
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:51 | 只看该作者
这种翻译拿出来要扣分
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:53 | 只看该作者
原帖由 金属外壳 于 2005-8-19 16:51 发表
( ]% {0 |: b1 t这种翻译拿出来要扣分

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不是巴,老大,今天下午我可是被扣成饼了
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发表于 2005-8-19 16:55 | 只看该作者
删了,多一事不如少一事,闪阿
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